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hello and welcome to the show i'm martin

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willis your host and i hope for all of

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you in the united states you had a great

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thanksgiving a few days ago it was uh

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pretty awesome on my end

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and uh

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always like again like i said my

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favorite holiday it was great uh meeting

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up with family talking to family all

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that stuff so

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this week we have something going on

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just a little bit different it's a

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pre-recorded show

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and uh

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it's just ahead of when the show airs

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live it had to do with a scheduling

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conflict from our guests uh so we we

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figured that we'd do this first and

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record and it's just like it will be

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live there's absolutely no editing and

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the good thing i think it's a good thing

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if you're watching live on youtube

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or on facebook then i will be in the

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chat room so

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interacting there so uh peter maxwell

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slatterly he was first on back in 2013

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and we welcome him back um he has a film

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out that's called multi-dimensional

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um he has some great footage i've looked

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at it when he was on here he was on here

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two times over the past several years

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and so we'll be running the trailer of

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the movie coming up in just a bit and

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we're gonna find out when that's going

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to be available and all that uh peter's

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from australia and uh we do have a large

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listening audience there i think it's

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either second or third in the entire

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uh and for kind of a small population 26

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million people or so somewhere around

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there so uh it's it's always amazed me

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how uh you know really big into the ufo

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topic people in australia are

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so big news i heard about this on

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thanksgiving day is the defense

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department uh at the pentagon has a new

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office and it's dedicated to

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investigating ufos uips whatever you'd

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airborne object identification and

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management synchronization group

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the acronym for it is a o i m s g

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why i guess you call it a sumaga

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something like that but uh i'm wondering

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if they made it that long just so people

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would get tired of reading it over and

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over again or something or it's kind of

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kind of overkill on the name there but

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so osama gah

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um unexplained phenomena that pass

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through military airspace

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and it's kind of a shame that's all

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they're going to focus on but i think it

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probably has to do with the data that

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military airspace i suppose that's what

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it is and it's uh the group will be

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by and unders the secretary of defense

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for intelligence and security osamuga

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will be the successor to the navy

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department

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called the unidentified

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phenomenon task force so that's what is

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going on there uh we have a blog up this

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week i didn't get to hear from charles

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before i'm recording to figure out what

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that is about what the title is and all

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that but check it out over at

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podcastufo.com it'll be on our website

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and along with that there's also our

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patreon page and i want to thank those

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who reached out from

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last week and are support now supporting

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the show means a very much to me thank

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you very much

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and that is also there's a link on our

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website at podcastufo.com

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we're also on facebook there's uh i

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think 20 somewhat thousand people over

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same amount i believe on our twitter i'm

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social media of any kind these days uh

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sorry about that but a lot of people

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and that's that's uh always a useful

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tool but i just don't go on the platform

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too much at all these days and there's a

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lot of ufo stuff on occasionally someone

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facebook and of course i will check it

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out there but anyway here's our guest

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i'm bringing in peter right now peter

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welcome to the show

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great to connect again martin

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i know it's been i can't remember the

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last time you were on it but i think it

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was four or five years

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it's been a couple of times in since

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yeah yeah and you have a new film out um

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and what inspired you to was it your

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idea to come up with this film or does

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someone approach you how did that oh

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i did it myself and funny enough it's on

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myself but what how this came into

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fruition was i was i've done contact has

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say i don't see myself as a filmmaker i

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was trying to tell a story

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i don't think i'm a filmmaker though i

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can just put it together

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and it was in a period of a week i

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actually had uh john vivanco who's in

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the movie he's a professional remote

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builder he's done work for the uh for a

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just make your own film and there was

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other opportunities in the past but

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community that have been at it longer

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the conscious aspect it wasn't the nuts

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five percent of what's out there from my

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intelligent hauntings because they can

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going a bit ahead here

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but this is the basis that i wanted to

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the phenomena and that's what i wanted

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to bring in bring to light in a very

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digestible way with evidence that i

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uh paul eno and he's been talking about

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available but i was kind of shocked when

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he first said along those lines where he

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thought you know this whole ball of wax

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that people are seeing

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type of thing

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every bit of it might be

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multi-dimensional now i i tend to think

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and i just heard you say this

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that whatever it is may be coming from

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other places as well not just that

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that's kind of you know whatever it is

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the day is with what these things may or

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may not be when people are discussing it

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many things you know and it's just it's

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a theory um that's all we really have

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is theories anyway to begin with but um

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the video but however i do have the

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trailer here would you like me to play

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that now i can just yeah

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okay so here is the trailer to the film

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going right now

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what is this all about

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why are we being interacted with by this

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range of physical and non-physical

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intelligences

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my experiences started at a young age

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and typically what people refer to as

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like the grey alien and his evidence

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speaks for itself the evidence that

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peter was showing there his video

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footage of craft of all different kinds

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of craft it's almost like they are being

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told it's time to come out because we're

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here

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[Music]

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pete's genetics you know they've been

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manipulated and they're different than a

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normal human this has been happening to

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him since he was a child when it got

294
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pretty serious was when i started seeing

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what i could term as like blue orbs

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coming into the house floating around

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doing whatever they do

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applying enhanced filters to the footage

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engraved with large heads

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large dark eyes almond shaped

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small nose and mouth we saw that this

302
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was indeed an alien in his house and

303
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there wasn't just one though there was

304
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basically a whole crew of them we know

305
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who's on the ships

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you know begs the question is why is

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this not available to the public it's

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crazy but it is what it is the one we

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know is pete is not so much one

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individual of course the data reflects

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somewhat of a

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rotation of beings that can and do go in

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and out of pete's body frankly he's

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described as being an experiment being a

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multi-dimensional

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alien type experiment

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[Music]

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wow hey well there's a lot of a lot to

319
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unpack right there peter first of all

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was uh is it james the one that we had

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the glasses

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no that was john vavanco oh

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john the one that works for the fbi

324
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he's worked he he's worked for them in a

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think tank so it's like they've

326
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outsourced a group of remote viewers and

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i think to back in the day that was to

328
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do with homeland security um after 9 11.

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so it was to prevent looking at

330
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potential events i don't know how much

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more i can say on that but yeah

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yeah

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that's kind of just taking a little side

334
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step here

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are they still

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working with remote viewing i mean is

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that something that they're here

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they've been working with remote viewing

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i even found out recently

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in the australian military that soldiers

341
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are being trained with remote viewing

342
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before going out and they're fully

343
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trained to go out

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i had this towards me personally by two

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two people

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see i thought that was that was done

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with in the uh seventies when

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uh we had project stargate to start off

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with but what i was told was after it

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was revealed in 90 i think it was

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mid-90s don't quote me

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what happened was then they started to

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outsource it

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and then i think it started to go under

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the nsa

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i can't say much more on that but that's

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what i've personally been told by people

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that were part of it

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yeah

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were in the trailer

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um that looked like

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uh you know aliens you know gray aliens

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or whatever

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is there is that possible have you had

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someone

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we have this thing that we call

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peridolia where we look at things and

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things we make them into faces

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that's called mitrixin that's called

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matrixing where you will matrix it

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that's the term i've heard it i haven't

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heard that term but yeah i know it is

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matrices matrixing so

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the original photo is a lot clearer than

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that the only reason you're seeing that

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version there is to enhance the contrast

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and everything to bring it out so people

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don't have to look for it

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um

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but there is nothing that was there i

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can tell you that 100 without a doubt

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like meaning there's nothing there that

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could matrix that in the mind to see

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that image plus the other one is a video

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of it blinking

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a video

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it's already been on youtube for since

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2017 there's a video of a grey head

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popping out that you can see the eyes

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blink

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ah wow and that's on your youtube

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channel yeah

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that's my idea i missed that one i

394
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looked at a few of them uh in the past

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but i did miss that one in particular

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but so these things i don't know

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first of all there was one other thing i

398
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want to talk about that trailer and that

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is your genetics have changed

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that

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what i heard

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yeah so there are there's been up to 40

403
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remote viewers work with john on

404
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about who i am and some of the

405
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experiences totally blind

406
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and that's what they've all come up with

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as well as there is some anomalous stuff

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as well

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oh but you haven't been tested to see if

410
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you're you're

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well what i can tell you my creatine

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levels are extremely high very similar

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readings to what we could see with ufo

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hunters with uh tyrell and michael lee

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hill

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my eyesight i should have been wearing

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glasses full time in my 20s for the rest

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of my life and i don't need glasses

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anymore there's a few i i would go into

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more but there's just things that i need

421
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to keep somewhat privacy for myself

422
00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:05,759
huh how about that so okay so let's uh

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let's rewind

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for the person that hasn't it's been a

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long time since you've been

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on this show and so let's go back to the

427
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beginning of how these things began

428
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with you how long ago

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can you talk about where you were living

430
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and and and all of that if you would

431
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yes so i'm from a town called aubry uh

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it's on the border of new south wales

433
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and victoria's together they're known as

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twin cities aubry we're dongle but i was

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on the new south wales side

436
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uh what i can tell what i can say there

437
00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:39,680
was experiences at a young age which i

438
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don't talk about because they're very

439
00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:43,279
they're not 100 sort of they're very

440
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vague just imagery but

441
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the way i describe it and i've talked

442
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about this in later years never at the

443
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start but there was forms of what i

444
00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:51,839
could say is telepathy which i

445
00:16:56,389 --> 00:16:53,839
understand now i didn't back then from

446
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the age of seven and this was a female

447
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energy or a voice speaking to me

448
00:17:02,150 --> 00:17:00,399
that would be telling me things before

449
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they happen things to do with the family

450
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sometimes with different events

451
00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,400
uh i can remember going to the doctors

452
00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:08,640
with my uh mother one time about it and

453
00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:09,679
the doctor said well there's nothing

454
00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:11,439
negative so don't worry about it so it

455
00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:13,199
will sort of just blow it off but what

456
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:15,039
he's saying was happening

457
00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:17,280
or it would eventually happen

458
00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:20,000
it was between the ages of 8 and 12 with

459
00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:21,919
strong memories of what i could describe

460
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:24,720
as sometimes a grey alien or aliens but

461
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:27,760
they weren't grey they were white

462
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they

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would have skin

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00:17:34,549 --> 00:17:32,799
that

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if you got cigarette ash and you dabbed

466
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,080
it with your finger that texture it was

467
00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:38,160
like that and they were white pure black

468
00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:40,720
armored eyes but they were more sort of

469
00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:42,720
they weren't as up they were sort of

470
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more like ours but they'll still on a

471
00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:47,520
tilt not super big

472
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and there was a recurring experience

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00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:51,520
with them on a regular basis basis

474
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between the ages eight and twelve i

475
00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:54,240
remember that because i was living with

476
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my mother at the time in a certain new

477
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house that they had built and then i

478
00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:00,559
went to my father's later on

479
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:04,240
so that was a reoccurring experience

480
00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:06,160
it wasn't until

481
00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:08,000
i just dropped you right there did you

482
00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:10,000
feel like you were what people are

483
00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:12,080
calling abducted

484
00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:12,880
no

485
00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:16,240
didn't think they were angels demons i

486
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,840
didn't know what they were i had no

487
00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:19,440
record for it

488
00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,960
it scared the crap out of me two at

489
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times i'd pull the sheet up i can

490
00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:23,360
remember and turning and sometimes

491
00:18:26,549 --> 00:18:24,799
there'll be light coming from the

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peripheral or the curtain now whether

493
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the sun up was up in the morning whether

494
00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:29,200
it was the middle of the morning and

495
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there was a craft outside what was

496
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:33,679
responsible for that i've got no idea

497
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:35,520
all i can tell you is i was like what

498
00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:37,280
the hell am i saying what i haven't

499
00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:38,960
spoken about only a couple of times with

500
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:40,960
whitley street and others was what i

501
00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:43,039
originally saw was something appearing

502
00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:44,880
as kirkebane i'm not saying it was

503
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:46,400
kirkobay and the singer of nirvana but i

504
00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:47,919
was into nirvana

505
00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:49,520
and looking back i feel that they were

506
00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:51,760
projecting that image to try and

507
00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:53,520
wean me into it but it actually scared

508
00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:54,880
the crap out of me more than what they

509
00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:57,520
look like in their original state

510
00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:00,559
so that's the weird phenomena with you

511
00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:02,640
know how this works and there's a lot of

512
00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:04,640
stuff i've sat on over the years just

513
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:06,480
because some of it's strange strangely

514
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:08,240
enough so far out

515
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:09,520
besides what we're talking about with

516
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,880
the topic but this is the stuff that

517
00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:12,559
needs to be spoken about and before i go

518
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:14,960
further what i have to say is

519
00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,200
to understand or to start to understand

520
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:19,120
this phenomenon i don't think anyone

521
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:21,440
does a hundred percent

522
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:23,120
you have to throw linear thinking out

523
00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,400
the window

524
00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:26,559
a hundred percent linear thinking has to

525
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:28,160
go completely out the window doesn't

526
00:19:32,710 --> 00:19:30,400
mean don't be discerning and don't use

527
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:32,720
logic at times but you have to look at

528
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:34,720
things in a way of 360 degree

529
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:37,520
unboundedly all possibility to start

530
00:19:40,950 --> 00:19:39,120
getting to this because

531
00:19:42,789 --> 00:19:40,960
a lot of the researchers they've had a

532
00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:42,799
strange experience themselves but what

533
00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:44,799
happens is it's ridiculed and it's

534
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:46,720
looked down upon the really strange

535
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,520
stuff

536
00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:48,880
and when you get to know experiences

537
00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:51,760
like i have spoke to thousands now

538
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:54,240
you find these common weird high

539
00:19:58,470 --> 00:19:57,039
strangeness things that they'll go

540
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:58,480
all right i haven't told anyone this

541
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:59,760
part of the experience and then they

542
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:01,120
tell you

543
00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:03,039
and you find these sort of repeated

544
00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:06,240
patterns of very strange things but with

545
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:08,480
that said my first ufo sighting was at

546
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:10,400
the age of 12.

547
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:12,799
and that was also in aubry but it was in

548
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:15,360
lavington it was a suburb where we were

549
00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:16,799
lavington

550
00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:17,919
and

551
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:21,039
i remember it was a hot day in summer

552
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:22,880
from what i can remember

553
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,400
and i had one of the you know the slush

554
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:26,000
puppies

555
00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:27,919
it was a bottle

556
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:30,799
where if you put the slush puppy into it

557
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,520
the bottle would change colors

558
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:35,440
so it was like one that you kept and you

559
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:36,720
watched at home and you take it back to

560
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:39,520
fill up so i remember walking down to

561
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:41,120
the gas or the you call it the gas

562
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:42,480
station

563
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,320
at the time of road pantries on the

564
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:48,880
corner of dick road and the hume highway

565
00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:51,039
which is like the main at the at the

566
00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:53,120
time it will cut through albury

567
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,520
it's the main sort of freeway or highway

568
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:57,679
between melbourne and sydney

569
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,000
so a major major

570
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:02,640
road or highway but i was on a side road

571
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:05,200
to that walking up to the gas station

572
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:06,799
and what i saw

573
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:09,360
slightly it would have been

574
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:11,679
probably to the north or slightly

575
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:13,120
northeast

576
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:14,880
was the only way i can describe this it

577
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:16,159
looked like if you pulled a weight off

578
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,080
the end of a bar put it sideways like

579
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,080
the actual weight itself like a disc but

580
00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,480
it wasn't it was more like a weight

581
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:24,559
so it was curvature perfect on the sides

582
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,960
but this thing was a matte grey broad

583
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,559
daylight three four o'clock in the

584
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,559
afternoon something like that and it was

585
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:32,400
three times the size of a football field

586
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:34,080
because i saw it in later years and

587
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,360
looking at things when you're young when

588
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:37,039
you get older they look different in

589
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:40,400
size this craft is absolutely gigantic

590
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:42,080
and all it did was cut in front of this

591
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:43,760
hill called red light hill

592
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:45,919
until it went away in a distance and i

593
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:48,640
couldn't see it anymore and to this day

594
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:50,799
i've not heard anyone else talk about

595
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:53,760
seeing that in the town but there was

596
00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:56,320
other ufo sightings around that time

597
00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:58,799
later that i found out about

598
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:01,679
wow so that was the starting phase of

599
00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:03,520
what we could say my introduction to

600
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:05,440
this phenomena

601
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:08,720
and when you have seen these you know i

602
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:11,360
just look albert is uh it's like forty

603
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,720
seven thousand people i don't know how

604
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:14,480
many there were when you were young that

605
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,440
literally

606
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:17,679
it's pretty tight

607
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:20,880
yeah it's it's it's so it's it's fairly

608
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:23,679
populated will you write in the like the

609
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:26,080
downtown area where you would be

610
00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:26,880
sure

611
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:28,960
if you look up lavington on a map it's

612
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,039
sort of just north of aubrey so it's

613
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:33,440
like an outer suburb

614
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:35,840
of aubry and then you go into the humor

615
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,440
in areas like that which funny enough

616
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:39,360
when i was on the news years ago when my

617
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:41,760
story started coming out here publicly

618
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:44,240
i had truck drivers and a lot of people

619
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,520
from albury

620
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,679
uh teachers contacted me saying that

621
00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:49,280
they've seen similar stuff in the areas

622
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,679
where i was reporting it as well i even

623
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:53,679
contact in later years which we'll get

624
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:56,080
to i even contacted the air services

625
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:58,400
which is like your faa

626
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:00,240
about these sightings that i had the

627
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:02,480
footage i had witnesses and i was just

628
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:04,000
asking if there was anything in the

629
00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:05,760
skies at that time and they they told me

630
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,120
back then

631
00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:09,600
that the air aubrey airport was shut i

632
00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:11,440
think at that time don't quote me but i

633
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:14,000
believe if i remember correctly 6 30

634
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,440
at night onwards because it was such a

635
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:17,200
small town

636
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:18,799
and these things were happening after

637
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:21,200
that at that time and they said nothing

638
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,120
was in your airspace at that time when i

639
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,960
reported the site there was two or three

640
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,400
sightings i reported to them within a

641
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:28,320
month which is when all this started

642
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:30,320
getting uh pretty full on in 2000

643
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,600
october of 2010.

644
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,280
wow um

645
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,200
so yeah

646
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:39,760
i was wondering i just heard you say it

647
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,120
that you've had

648
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:43,200
uh there are some cases that do have

649
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:44,480
some witnesses

650
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:47,520
and what type of witnesses have you had

651
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:49,600
over the years that can cooperate the

652
00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:52,400
different things that you've seen

653
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:54,640
neighbors family

654
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:55,760
friends

655
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,919
uh when i was in melbourne

656
00:24:02,230 --> 00:23:59,760
i've actually got a sanctuary now where

657
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,240
i'm at uh near aubrey i'm not in auburn

658
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:04,559
i'm about 40 minutes away but what i can

659
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,679
tell you i've aerospace engineers

660
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:09,360
um

661
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:11,520
that that's like pretty recent in the

662
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:14,640
last few years just people that i meet

663
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,960
it's just i've had over 300 people in my

664
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:18,640
home that have experienced this let

665
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:20,720
alone a few thousand around the world

666
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,240
when i've held skywatching events and

667
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:23,919
things like that whether in america or

668
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:25,039
italy or

669
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:27,200
um mexico wherever i've been it's

670
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:30,320
especially in america

671
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,279
well uh i wanted to see if i could play

672
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,440
one of these things i can share one of

673
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:37,120
these videos that i'm just taking right

674
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:39,039
now from your

675
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:39,840
uh

676
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,919
let's see if i can do that i'm gonna try

677
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:42,960
to

678
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,440
share a screen and pull up your

679
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:47,200
video here

680
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:53,190
looks like looks like i sort of can so

681
00:25:05,909 --> 00:24:54,480
what i'm going to do is i'm going to try

682
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,230
and i think we can talk over this

683
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,880
so this was uh this was recent

684
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:12,159
yeah well there's actually a couple of

685
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,919
daytime ones that you might want to show

686
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,360
that are a lot better quality with the

687
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:17,520
4k camera this is with the

688
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,159
psionics color night shot camera

689
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,679
you can't see the way that this thing

690
00:25:25,269 --> 00:25:23,760
maneuvers and goes away and it did blink

691
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:25,279
out and i didn't capture that part

692
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:26,559
because i'm filming this stuff on a

693
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,159
regular basis and sometimes you just

694
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,240
want to enjoy the experience so

695
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:32,240
um there's a good daytime one which

696
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,600
actually whitley street was going on

697
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:36,080
about recently where that was uh very

698
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:37,440
similar to a sighting i think back in

699
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:40,480
2004 that he was gobsmacked with the

700
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:42,640
quality and the similarity to another

701
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:45,679
sighting uh so this is night time

702
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:47,840
daytime phenomena it really doesn't

703
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,320
matter but this is recent um as you can

704
00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,799
see the 22nd of october

705
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,799
right right and i'll i'll try to search

706
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,120
for what you're talking about and see if

707
00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:59,200
i can uh pull that up

708
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:01,039
can i send you it in the link i can send

709
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:02,480
that just to you straight away from the

710
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,919
youtube in the link if you actually you

711
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,520
can just pull it up and share your

712
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,039
screen you'll see right on the bottom of

713
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:09,120
your screen there it'll say share screen

714
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:10,400
you can actually

715
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:11,679
share the video

716
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,279
if you want to try to figure that out as

717
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,120
we we go along

718
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:17,279
i'll put it here now if you want to say

719
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,159
it

720
00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:20,640
yeah sure uh yeah i think uh i think all

721
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:21,919
i have to do is

722
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,480
um let's see go ahead and try to try to

723
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:26,640
bring it in do share screen and i'll

724
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:31,590
um

725
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:32,559
anyway

726
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:35,279
working this tech stuff on the fly here

727
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:37,200
um

728
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,919
i do have to ask you if you are you not

729
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:41,760
able to pull that up right now

730
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:44,000
no for some reason it's asking me to go

731
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,440
into settings and do a heap of different

732
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,279
things i can just send it to you it's uh

733
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:50,000
it's just called ufo of australia uh

734
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:51,520
october 2nd

735
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:54,080
2021 so yeah

736
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,760
oh 2020 october 22nd 2021

737
00:27:02,870 --> 00:26:59,760
yep i thought

738
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,880
no october 2nd october 2nd all right

739
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:04,559
okay so i'll look for that while while

740
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,640
we're talking but um

741
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,400
have you

742
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,799
ever wondered why

743
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,200
you must have wondered why why you why

744
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,679
are you seeing all these things

745
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:17,840
or is it just where you live what is it

746
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,240
that's going on there

747
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:22,640
i think this stuff's going on everywhere

748
00:27:25,789 --> 00:27:24,159
i think

749
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:25,799
from the evidence over time and my

750
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,720
experiences that i'm open to these types

751
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:30,640
of things and i think there's a there's

752
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,919
these types of people out there i think

753
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:33,520
anyone can experience it but the way i

754
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,960
describe it is

755
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:36,720
we don't see with our eyes and we don't

756
00:27:40,510 --> 00:27:39,039
see with our pineal gland our eyes only

757
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,520
pick up a fraction of

758
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,720
0.005 percent of physical matter which

759
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:44,799
is the visible light spectrum we've got

760
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:48,000
infrared uv gamma rays what have you and

761
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,679
i think this stuff can be seen at any

762
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,600
time but some people are more receptive

763
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,679
than others and again it doesn't matter

764
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,360
what country i'm in

765
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,960
i see this

766
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:58,559
all around the world

767
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,120
uh there is stuff that i could go into

768
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:02,960
but this is where it gets really deep in

769
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:05,440
terms of like i say the et phenomena is

770
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,039
not even five percent of what this is

771
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:09,039
really a part of in my opinion

772
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:11,039
and this goes into

773
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:12,880
other aspects higher aspects of our

774
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:15,039
consciousness other aspects of who and

775
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:17,279
what we all are individually and part of

776
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,960
a collective as well

777
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:20,880
so that this is where it does get pretty

778
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,480
laid yeah this is the video here

779
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,279
and run it now for everyone to see and

780
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:29,120
i will link these things in the show

781
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:30,320
notes for those of you that are

782
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:33,360
listening to just the audio podcast

783
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,399
um so i'm assuming we'll see something

784
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:38,000
there it is okay

785
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:40,159
i see it now so what were you using for

786
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,679
equipment right there

787
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:44,080
oh usually i just use this the panasonic

788
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:48,080
4k camera uh i think this one's i've had

789
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,039
a couple over the years i think this

790
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:50,880
one's got the 30 times zoom but it does

791
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,919
go up to

792
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,440
that's optical zoom and then it goes up

793
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:55,760
to 1500 digital zoom

794
00:29:05,110 --> 00:28:57,200
so

795
00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:05,120
the psionics as well

796
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:08,559
so the um the sony a7 is a really good

797
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,440
camera it's what a lot of the tv

798
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:13,200
crews use for night stuff like ancient

799
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:14,799
aliens when i was on aliens and we

800
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,559
filmed the craft uh they were using that

801
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:19,279
type of camera as well

802
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:20,559
yeah and

803
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,039
oh so that's it for that one

804
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:25,200
well that was uh that was definitely

805
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:26,399
interesting

806
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,520
and you've had uh so many of these

807
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:31,440
things over the years i just think it's

808
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,600
uncanny i remember you know back when

809
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:34,880
you were on

810
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:37,760
the first time you had many

811
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:40,320
and and uh what about pictures do you

812
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:41,679
take

813
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:46,080
haven't you yeah sometimes like with the

814
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:49,360
alien photo in the um in the trailer i

815
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,960
didn't say anything at the time but what

816
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:52,960
happened was those footsteps on the roof

817
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,240
while i was in my cabin then i could

818
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:56,399
hear something go from that to outside

819
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:57,679
the lounge room when i went outside and

820
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,399
took that photo there is some photos if

821
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,559
you go to my youtube page again go down

822
00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:04,480
to investigations i think it's the first

823
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:07,039
video on the home page you'll see one of

824
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,200
the clearest photos ever

825
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,520
of a disc and that was analyzed by jason

826
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:13,120
gleaves

827
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:14,720
straight away

828
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,600
so there's many photos i can say that

829
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,279
there's over three thousand photos and

830
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:21,600
videos a lot of it i haven't produced a

831
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,960
lot of it's been up and i've pulled down

832
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:24,720
because i'm reintroducing a lot of stuff

833
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:27,360
to to present with analyzations that

834
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,440
jason gleaves has done so much work for

835
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:31,760
me over i think a four year period of

836
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:33,520
analyzing it's been analyzed by heimi

837
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:36,240
massan's group uh to millennia uh

838
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:39,360
japanese tv they did a featured piece

839
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,200
um even here with the news and that

840
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,960
they've all been handed the original

841
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:44,640
data and seen the metadata and they've

842
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,120
just got their footage as well over the

843
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,679
years but this is the point now i'm over

844
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:51,840
it i don't care it doesn't change

845
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:53,760
anything i'm somebody that's telling a

846
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:55,039
story and i think

847
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:56,799
no matter how much stuff i've got and

848
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,880
how much people see with me people are

849
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:00,159
going to believe people aren't going to

850
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:02,240
believe and i think unfortunately

851
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,159
this community has become more an

852
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,840
entertainment industry and that's why

853
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:08,159
i'm shipping away from it and going more

854
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,600
into the spiritual consciousness

855
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,760
connection because

856
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:13,440
if we look at jail and heineken duck

857
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:15,760
filet great work not putting them down i

858
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,840
admire what they've done but the same

859
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:19,760
theories that they've had since then

860
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:21,840
stand now nothing's evolved in this

861
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:22,960
community

862
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,120
nothing the technology might have got

863
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:27,360
better for analyzation

864
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,399
but

865
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:30,559
people are sticking

866
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:31,679
with

867
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:33,679
what they can prove and what they can't

868
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,600
prove and they entwine their own

869
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:39,279
we could say view of the lens of the

870
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:40,720
world into that

871
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,279
and this is where it's getting nowhere

872
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,880
same with the disclosure stuff great

873
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,720
work dr graham stephen bus that many

874
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:48,000
others have done

875
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:49,519
not putting it down

876
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:50,960
but what we're seeing is a controlled

877
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:52,640
narrative and i've talked to people in

878
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,679
military even with the latest footage

879
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:57,760
i know that the camera footage that

880
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,799
we're being given the flu imagery is

881
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,240
downgraded

882
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:04,480
then handed out and that there's another

883
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,039
two cameras on those planes that are

884
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:09,679
actually filming our crafts only one

885
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:11,840
craft will say is extraterrestrial and

886
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,720
that is the tic tac ufo everything else

887
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,720
is our stuff whether it's got the

888
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:18,799
navigation lights on it

889
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,399
whether they've distorted the footage

890
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:22,000
and you can see that it's doing stuff

891
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:23,919
that not extraterrestrial vehicles will

892
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,080
do because i've seen so many now and i'm

893
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,000
interacting with these beings and i know

894
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:29,760
who some of them are i don't know

895
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:31,600
everything but what i can tell you is i

896
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,960
know a lot more than most but it's only

897
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:34,480
one percent out of a trillion percent of

898
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:35,840
what i would know

899
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:38,559
but i don't see this going anywhere

900
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:41,279
from where it has if we go back to the

901
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:43,679
old school researchers we seem to be on

902
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:44,720
a loop

903
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:46,720
and that's because nobody's making moves

904
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:48,320
we can talk about all this all we want

905
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,080
but this is where now we've got to get

906
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,480
into the nitty-gritty of consciousness

907
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:54,559
and i think work like joe dispenza greg

908
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,519
braden

909
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,840
people that are doing stuff that we've

910
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,600
thought was a load of crap or fairy tale

911
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:01,120
for years and now they're able to come

912
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:02,799
in and measure people's consciousness

913
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,720
and their heart and their energy and

914
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:06,720
things like that and it's because a lot

915
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:08,080
of researchers don't want to go there

916
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:10,640
because it sounds airy fairy well this

917
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,399
is how a lot of the crafts are piloted

918
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,880
they're piloted through consciousness

919
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:16,559
and this is what they've been doing in

920
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:17,919
the projects

921
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:19,919
and i can even remember remember hearing

922
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,760
years ago david adair talking about a

923
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,120
situation

924
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,679
he's a famous american rocket scientist

925
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,320
where he was part of a university

926
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:30,559
uh thing where he had to go in

927
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:32,000
because they'll

928
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:33,760
shooting the missiles in the fighter

929
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:36,559
jets through thought wearing a helmet

930
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,480
and this bloke had come home this pilot

931
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,399
found his wife sleeping with another man

932
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:41,760
went back to work and because he was

933
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:44,720
frustrated it was shooting

934
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:46,080
through thought and he wasn't even

935
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:47,279
trying to do it so they had to put a

936
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:48,480
block on it

937
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,240
so this is stuff that's been worked on

938
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:52,240
for many years but it's all got to do

939
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,799
with consciousness and no matter

940
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:56,880
how many photos or videos i show and

941
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:59,120
other people show

942
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,880
that's all child's play for what this is

943
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,840
about

944
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:04,080
it is it's repeated and this is where i

945
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:05,840
say to people what's the fruit of the

946
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,480
information is it benefiting you is it

947
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,320
helping your life or is it just

948
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:12,320
entertainment for you because if that's

949
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,919
just entertainment

950
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,520
you might as well just be watching a tv

951
00:34:19,829 --> 00:34:17,040
show about this because i've been shot

952
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:19,839
at over this i've had stuff stolen from

953
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:22,240
me i've been in situations that i don't

954
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,800
wish upon anybody and this stuff is a

955
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:26,560
very serious

956
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:29,359
topic in life that i'm living

957
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:31,280
among many others in this community that

958
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:33,119
have gone through similar things that

959
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:34,639
this is the stuff that people don't see

960
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:37,200
behind the scenes and this is a serious

961
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,359
topic and it's not to be taken lightly

962
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,679
or just for armchair researchers to just

963
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:43,760
be flicking through things

964
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:46,240
well i've heard i've heard a number of

965
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,040
people talk about this consciousness

966
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:51,280
thing over the years but i need it

967
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:55,040
explain to me better i don't understand

968
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,879
exactly

969
00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:58,720
what it means

970
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,640
can you break it down

971
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:03,280
to make so someone like myself and maybe

972
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:05,040
my listeners can understand what you

973
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:08,560
think that this consciousness connection

974
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,760
or

975
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,599
something that we're doing

976
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:13,280
uh how that works

977
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,960
all right so this is where again like i

978
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,480
said at the start to understand where

979
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:18,079
i'm at these days you have to throw

980
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:19,599
linear thinking out the window again it

981
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:22,079
doesn't mean don't be discerning

982
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:23,280
but when we're talking about this

983
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:26,079
consciousness is awareness

984
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:27,520
now

985
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:32,560
shut your senses off

986
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:34,880
and think about how you're perceiving

987
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,359
and observing my voice

988
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:39,119
this is where it leads into meditation

989
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,480
and consciousness states because what i

990
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,560
can tell you is when i'm filming a lot

991
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:44,400
of those crafts i'm on the crafts

992
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,640
interfacing in my mind's eye my pineal

993
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,240
gland where people have dreams with my

994
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,000
eyes open filming the craft and i'm on

995
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,560
the craft with the beans

996
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:54,720
now this is where a lot of people will

997
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,200
not say stuff like that because that

998
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,760
goes all right these guys just lost me

999
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,520
and why have they why have i lost them

1000
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:03,119
because i haven't experienced so one

1001
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:04,400
thing is

1002
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,880
i can explain this to you but you aren't

1003
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,560
going to get it unless you've had an

1004
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:11,200
experience at that depth that's opened

1005
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:13,280
you full wide open to something like

1006
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,920
that to where it seems to be an ongoing

1007
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,680
thing because once you open up like that

1008
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,760
you never get shut down

1009
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:21,200
but what's happening is the way i

1010
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,200
describe this

1011
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:25,119
is imagine your human body is a

1012
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:27,680
biological computer

1013
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:29,839
your consciousness your soul is the

1014
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:32,000
software operating that

1015
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:34,400
and that interfaces let's say with god

1016
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,400
source created whatever you want to term

1017
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:38,560
term it and i'm going to go there

1018
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:41,040
because this is where it goes

1019
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:42,640
this is where it goes with many

1020
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,800
experiences so many experiences go into

1021
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,560
this kicking and screaming

1022
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:48,640
and they eventually get there

1023
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,839
all of them

1024
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:51,119
and that's what i'll say they don't some

1025
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:52,320
of them don't want to admit that because

1026
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:54,320
they lose people but what's happening is

1027
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,520
your body

1028
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:57,359
interfaces or what's connected with your

1029
00:37:03,510 --> 00:36:58,240
soul

1030
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,520
say is the wireless internet

1031
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,920
now this is where the way i can explain

1032
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:08,240
it is that everything is a cell of one

1033
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:10,400
consciousness that encompasses all

1034
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,680
consciousness

1035
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:14,000
that through thought this is why i say

1036
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,520
to people be very careful of what you

1037
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:17,280
say what you do and what you think

1038
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,640
especially when you think about this

1039
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:20,640
phenomena because so many people they

1040
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,839
think about it want to experience

1041
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,040
something and then they experience

1042
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:25,839
something and what's happening is

1043
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,079
your brain decodes like i was saying

1044
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,560
before about the fraction of 0.005

1045
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:32,320
percent of physical matter science you

1046
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,680
can look it up that's what we perceive

1047
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,760
which is the visible light spectrum

1048
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:37,839
now if your brain

1049
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:40,320
can't decode it or isn't open to it you

1050
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:41,760
are not going to experience what i'm

1051
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:44,640
talking about it is not going to happen

1052
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,240
because you need to be open to the

1053
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,000
possibility first for the brain to be

1054
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:51,440
open to experience it so this is why so

1055
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,359
many times i'll have somebody with me

1056
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:55,920
they can't see the craft but yet i go

1057
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:58,720
look at the viewfinder

1058
00:38:01,589 --> 00:38:00,079
they can see the craft then they look

1059
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:01,599
back up and now they can see the craft

1060
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:03,119
because they didn't know what to expect

1061
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:04,480
it wasn't what they were expecting in

1062
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:05,760
some cases so when we look at

1063
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:07,119
consciousness

1064
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,160
world it's the awareness

1065
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:14,880
and that's the point from that state

1066
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:16,800
that even these beings are operating in

1067
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,320
these beings are no better than us some

1068
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:20,079
of them might be appear to be more

1069
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:22,400
technologically advanced

1070
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,680
but they're all trying to go through

1071
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,920
their own conscious evolution

1072
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,119
um

1073
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,280
their their own civilizations are still

1074
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,280
trying to develop as well

1075
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:33,280
so this is where we could say with this

1076
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:35,359
again

1077
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:37,119
the paranormal is included because

1078
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,800
what's happening is

1079
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,079
i'll give you an example of

1080
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,560
consciousness and how it interfaces with

1081
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:45,119
these beings

1082
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,880
you have a thought like somebody has a

1083
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,200
ufo sighting and i'll ask them a

1084
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:50,960
question

1085
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:53,040
as an example this has happened numerous

1086
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:54,320
times

1087
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,839
did you just think you had to go outside

1088
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:57,359
and check the mail or was the car you

1089
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:58,560
know check if the car was locked i'm

1090
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,480
just giving an analogy here

1091
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:02,079
they're going yeah i just i thought i'd

1092
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,680
go and check the mail go outside and

1093
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,440
when i went outside check the mailbox i

1094
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:07,599
looked up and there it was

1095
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:09,440
that thought

1096
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:13,200
and check the mailbox that was actually

1097
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,040
what i call thought transfer commonly

1098
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,040
known as telepathy it was a thought

1099
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:19,440
projected to the subject they think to

1100
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:21,520
go outside because if they're just going

1101
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,960
to get a thought go outside look up in

1102
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:24,560
the sky there's ufo they're not going to

1103
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,079
digest that it's something that's got to

1104
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:28,160
be through their own thought so these

1105
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:29,200
beings

1106
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,800
communicate through thought so what's

1107
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,119
happening with me for example

1108
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,359
i'm getting thoughts i'm getting visions

1109
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,960
with my eyes open and i'm getting

1110
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:38,960
feelings and emotions to everything that

1111
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,880
they're projecting to me conscious wise

1112
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,040
of what they're trying to communicate

1113
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,680
it's literally like shoving a usb stick

1114
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,680
into into your brain

1115
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,119
data transfer going on it's just

1116
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,520
flickers of stuff and you're coherent

1117
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,920
you're with it you've got everything but

1118
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:55,280
sometimes what's happening is the body

1119
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:56,640
computer's got to catch up for you to

1120
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,119
fully articulate the information

1121
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:00,880
and what i can tell you now is that most

1122
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,280
of the interfacing that's going on

1123
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:05,680
with the consciousness aspect

1124
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:08,960
has got to about who i am and i'm not

1125
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,119
special i find with all experiences

1126
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:16,000
is twofold one aspect is about who and

1127
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,839
what they truly are

1128
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:20,160
and the second aspect is about

1129
00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:21,920
playing their part

1130
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:23,839
the best that they can to be a part of

1131
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,440
the awakening healing and uplifting

1132
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:27,119
human consciousness

1133
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,480
that's what we find across the board now

1134
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,760
it's not to say all these beings are

1135
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,079
positives i can tell you they're not all

1136
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:34,319
positive there's a small fraction which

1137
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,599
i would probably say is around five

1138
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:37,200
percent of my interactions have been

1139
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:38,800
extremely negative

1140
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,079
and then there's other beings that

1141
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,560
it's not positive or negative but i

1142
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:46,000
could even say it's the tricks to top

1143
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,599
energy where there is no substance to

1144
00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:49,599
the communication or the experience

1145
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,839
except it's just an

1146
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:53,520
experience and then the rest of it

1147
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:56,319
what i would say is there is a

1148
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,760
transfer of euphoric bliss

1149
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,599
enlightenment

1150
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,440
and knowingness and remembrance of the

1151
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:05,760
intelligence that i'm interacting with

1152
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:07,200
and that's well that's what it wasn't

1153
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,720
years later now it's different it's more

1154
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:10,000
like their friends because that's what

1155
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:11,280
it is

1156
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,480
but

1157
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:14,880
this is where it comes into us

1158
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:17,119
having multiple lenses in multiple

1159
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:18,960
realms experiencing things from a higher

1160
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,119
state of consciousness

1161
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,760
and like i'll say if you really delve

1162
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:25,920
into

1163
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:28,400
most contact cases which are ongoing

1164
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:30,000
that i've spoken to a lot of these

1165
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:31,440
people

1166
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:33,680
they're telling me the same information

1167
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,319
i've got but from a different angle

1168
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:38,000
adding to what i've got and when you

1169
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,920
start putting it together

1170
00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:42,000
there's either a huge hoax going on i

1171
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:43,599
say to people

1172
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,720
or there's something to it

1173
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:49,359
that's the bottom line of it but this

1174
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:50,800
i've spoken to people in the air force

1175
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:53,359
in america here

1176
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:56,240
and the thing that we're at now is they

1177
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:59,200
say like i that i think the population

1178
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:00,160
can handle that there's an

1179
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,560
extraterrestrial presence at times

1180
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,480
but what they can't handle maybe at this

1181
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,560
time is that some of these beings living

1182
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,079
right next to us and we can't perceive

1183
00:42:11,589 --> 00:42:10,000
them they're living in the earth and

1184
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,599
some of them are from completely

1185
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,839
different realms that aren't got

1186
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,359
anything to do with planets or stars the

1187
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,520
way that we know it and that is the part

1188
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,200
they probably can't integrate yet

1189
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:20,880
because they've got to yet integrate

1190
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:22,160
there's extraterrestrials and they're

1191
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,359
not going to get the conscious aspect

1192
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:25,520
like you're saying it's a big leap to go

1193
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,560
there

1194
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:28,079
but this is where it leads whether

1195
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,359
people want to go kicking or screaming

1196
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,440
or not that's where it goes

1197
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,680
well you know it's uh

1198
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,280
i i would

1199
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:37,680
you know it it's pretty far out there

1200
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:40,079
but i i gotta tell you this

1201
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:41,680
that

1202
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,319
i heard you know with you you mentioned

1203
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:46,160
you know the the videos and things like

1204
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:49,040
that um and i've heard you know

1205
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,480
different things about

1206
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,720
people's opinions on those videos

1207
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,640
um but

1208
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,480
i heard uh

1209
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,119
louis lou elizondo

1210
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:01,520
uh who is supposed to be on this show um

1211
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,280
in a few weeks but unfortunately he's

1212
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:06,000
not uh he's he's not gonna be on until

1213
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:10,839
march but he said on another podcast

1214
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,200
that what if

1215
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:15,599
what we're encountering or some of what

1216
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,200
we're encountering

1217
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:19,920
is something that is on a different

1218
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,119
level

1219
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:23,119
then now this is uh

1220
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:25,920
i'm paraphrasing but he said something

1221
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,079
along the lines with what if we're not

1222
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,480
the top of the food chain here on this

1223
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:32,800
planet what if something right next to

1224
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,720
us is above us

1225
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,079
and uh

1226
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:38,480
so he was saying something almost in a

1227
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:41,359
way similar to what you were saying and

1228
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,880
i do understand what you're talking

1229
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:44,319
about i've talked about it many times

1230
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:47,119
about the spectrum that we actually see

1231
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:49,760
we only know a very small part of what

1232
00:43:53,950 --> 00:43:51,920
is actually going on around us

1233
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:53,960
does that mean that things have to be

1234
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,480
multi-dimensional to be

1235
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,800
uh crossing through

1236
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:00,800
everything's crossing through and the

1237
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,670
these experiences right what's happening

1238
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,599
is the human brain can't process a lot

1239
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:13,359
of it again it comes back to what i was

1240
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:15,680
saying linear thinking

1241
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,359
how we communicate with the world

1242
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:18,800
predominantly is through the five sense

1243
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,920
reality sight sound touch taste smell

1244
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,760
but there's other components here

1245
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:25,760
there's the mind's eye

1246
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,440
there's thought transfer

1247
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,520
there's feelings and emotions

1248
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:31,200
and that's what you've got to include

1249
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,880
with those and we've been shut down from

1250
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,920
that

1251
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,760
we've been shut down it's been in

1252
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,200
process for thousands of years to shut

1253
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,359
it down you're born into the world you

1254
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:42,000
get vaccinated you go to primary school

1255
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,440
you're told what to wear when you start

1256
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:45,359
going to school uh well here in

1257
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,560
australia you do anyway you've got to

1258
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:48,240
wear certain uniforms you're told when

1259
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:49,680
you can go to the toilet you go and get

1260
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,200
a job you've got to go and pay a

1261
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:52,800
mortgage or you've got to go to universe

1262
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,440
you're told and you're programmed

1263
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,359
what's that what that has done has shut

1264
00:45:01,829 --> 00:44:59,040
us down and kept us in a five sense

1265
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:01,839
reality to where our emotions our and

1266
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:04,880
our our imagination

1267
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:07,359
is fairy tale but what i can tell you is

1268
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:09,520
imagination is not fairy tale they can

1269
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,680
meet you in the realm of imagination the

1270
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,760
mind's eye that dream state which

1271
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,440
happens to me in a waking state now i'll

1272
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,440
give you an example of this where

1273
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:19,440
what's happening is again thoughts

1274
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,800
feelings and visions coming in when i'm

1275
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:22,160
interfacing with them i can project

1276
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:23,680
thoughts back back and forth it took me

1277
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:25,599
years to develop that with them

1278
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:28,079
but what i'm doing is i'm communicating

1279
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:30,480
through thoughts feelings

1280
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:31,680
visions

1281
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:33,119
all the stuff that we're told that's

1282
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:34,640
fairy tale it's not part of the five

1283
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,359
sense reality so it don't exist

1284
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,440
and so this is where we need to develop

1285
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,839
that as a species individually if people

1286
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:43,760
don't want to do it that's fine but it's

1287
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:45,200
developed naturally through me this is

1288
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,880
why people develop it naturally through

1289
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:48,880
meditation they can go into altered

1290
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,640
states of consciousness

1291
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:52,160
so

1292
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:54,400
we've got this aspect

1293
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,680
that

1294
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,839
what i can tell you is

1295
00:46:01,589 --> 00:46:00,079
and it wasn't on ancient aliens but

1296
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,599
there's witnesses to this james

1297
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,480
gilliland and myself independently

1298
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:07,040
and john vavanco

1299
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,960
as a remote viewer he did it

1300
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:10,800
we all predicted the time and the

1301
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:13,119
location a craft would rock up at east

1302
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:14,480
city ranch

1303
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:16,000
it happened

1304
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,440
not only once

1305
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:18,960
but we've done this

1306
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,119
over the years there's times i will just

1307
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,640
walk out i'll be with friends and family

1308
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,920
i'll go there's a craft outside and i'll

1309
00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:25,440
be like you haven't even gone outside we

1310
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,280
walk out look up there's a craft broad

1311
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:29,760
daylight sitting there above the house

1312
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:31,520
so repeatedly

1313
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:33,280
myself and others

1314
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:36,720
have said what time what location they

1315
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,680
had for example with h9s there was

1316
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,440
there was flight apps there was

1317
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:43,200
satellite trackers these things were

1318
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:46,160
disappearing reappearing on demand when

1319
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,000
we said

1320
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:50,480
now this is where that's been repeated

1321
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:52,960
more than three times by me

1322
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:55,119
that's been probably repeated over 100

1323
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,910
that's science isn't it

1324
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,520
you repeat it

1325
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,440
you do it three times you have witnesses

1326
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,520
you get them to test it out

1327
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:07,119
this isn't what's being looked at now

1328
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,319
and it's because there's a controlled

1329
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,400
narrative within the ufo community and

1330
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,160
within the governments to set things to

1331
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:14,400
a certain state and we want it to be to

1332
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,160
this agenda and this is where it's going

1333
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,079
now this gets into conspiracy and other

1334
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,160
things but if we look over and over the

1335
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:22,480
last few years how many conspiracy

1336
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:24,319
theories have ended up being conspiracy

1337
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,920
fact

1338
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:27,760
this gets really deep and that's why

1339
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:28,720
they we

1340
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:31,839
we are out of time as a human species to

1341
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,000
go to this next level we need to start

1342
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:36,160
opening up and start getting out of just

1343
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,359
operating in

1344
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,960
the five sense reality and looking at

1345
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:40,480
things in black and white because the

1346
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,680
answers

1347
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,520
a lot of them i don't have they're in

1348
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,960
the gray area between the white and the

1349
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:46,800
black that's the problem

1350
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:48,720
and everyone wants it this way or they

1351
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,240
want it this way or they expect it this

1352
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,720
way they expect that way once you give

1353
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:54,240
in and surrender and despair the

1354
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,839
observer that's where stuff will start

1355
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:57,760
to come and that's why we're on this

1356
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,880
loop within the ufo community

1357
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,720
why would they we're going to be going

1358
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:04,319
into a break in about six minutes here

1359
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:07,359
but why would these

1360
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,240
things appear in the sky what makes the

1361
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:13,119
sky the place where they want to appear

1362
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:14,960
they don't just appear in the sky i

1363
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,800
think some of it's a safety thing some

1364
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,480
of it's to because they can feel your

1365
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,240
energy and if you're too freaked out it

1366
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,240
actually is like john verbanko says it's

1367
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,920
like throwing a brick at them and he's

1368
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,680
right

1369
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,599
there's been there's been dark energies

1370
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:29,280
when i've shown them love and compassion

1371
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:30,640
they've actually turned into smoke and

1372
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,000
dissolved

1373
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,240
so this is where i'm not saying most of

1374
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,680
it's in the sky most of it's actually

1375
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:37,119
happening right in front of me just half

1376
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:38,720
of the time i'm not thinking about

1377
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,960
getting a camera out and filming it

1378
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:42,480
because you're experiencing it but what

1379
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:43,920
i can say is i've got a lot more than

1380
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,280
most in the community to be able to

1381
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:47,040
provide whether it's orbs whether it's

1382
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,200
apparitions whatever it is that's

1383
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:51,599
appearing down low because like i said

1384
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:54,319
they can land a craft on you

1385
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,599
so a lot of people in bed when i've

1386
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,119
talked to them about their experiences

1387
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:59,040
they finally get it where they'll have a

1388
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,359
hum there'll be a sensation

1389
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:03,200
i spoke to native american elders about

1390
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,960
this and aboriginal elders hear about

1391
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,400
this where you sometimes you're not

1392
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,240
going to another planet or you're not

1393
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,920
going into space

1394
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,720
if you can imagine an et vehicle let's

1395
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:14,480
just say a flying source for a moment

1396
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:15,920
and i've got this actually on video at

1397
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,760
the a city ranch of a cigar craft three

1398
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:20,079
foot off the ground

1399
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:23,440
imagine an at vehicle as an apparition

1400
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:25,359
as a ghost you can see through it it

1401
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,640
looks a bit smokey but you can

1402
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:28,480
definitely see definition to it depth

1403
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:31,520
what have you they can land that on you

1404
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:33,920
it can go through your home land on you

1405
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:36,160
and be overlapping different rooms

1406
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,760
and if your eyes are closed and if

1407
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,359
you're in touch enough you'll actually

1408
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:41,280
start to see visions sometimes you might

1409
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,480
see a light

1410
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,640
some what they can do in that state

1411
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:46,319
is they can put you physically on board

1412
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:47,760
the craft that way

1413
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:49,359
or you can just have a mind's eye

1414
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,640
experience where you can see it like as

1415
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:51,920
if you're lying down in the craft and

1416
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,400
you can see the bangs or your light body

1417
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:56,160
can be pulled out of the physical vessel

1418
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:57,599
and you can experience it from what we

1419
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,800
could say an unbounded state of

1420
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:01,280
consciousness in board the craft

1421
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,520
this is how what i'll tell you most

1422
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,520
experiences are happening that way

1423
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:07,440
and because

1424
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,160
what people formally called abductions

1425
00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,400
well not just abductions very small

1426
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:14,079
amount of my stuff subductions i think

1427
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,359
in some cases they think it's

1428
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,599
subductions but they don't

1429
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:19,359
all right what i can tell you is and

1430
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:20,640
maybe think about this for your own

1431
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:22,000
research

1432
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,599
so many times people will start out

1433
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:25,440
calling them abductions and then 10

1434
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:26,880
years later they're not abductions

1435
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:30,000
anymore it's an experience right

1436
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,839
yeah experiences

1437
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:33,440
yeah they're just not understanding it

1438
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:35,680
at the time and again there's a point on

1439
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:37,119
that that might not make that right what

1440
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:38,960
did i tell you at the start i used to

1441
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,880
freak out

1442
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:42,559
scared the absolute living crap out of

1443
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:44,000
me to where i'll pull the sheets up and

1444
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,680
turn around because i didn't know what

1445
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,520
the hell it was that i was experiencing

1446
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,040
i didn't know what it was again i didn't

1447
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:51,440
think it was alien demonic angelic i had

1448
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,200
no idea what it was

1449
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:55,280
so this is where if this isn't talked

1450
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:57,200
about and put on the plate people

1451
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:59,440
experience it and they fold it off

1452
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:00,400
but

1453
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,240
there is more and more people more than

1454
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,960
ever talking about it in a way that i'm

1455
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,240
talking about it or from a different

1456
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:08,720
perspective that this is where it lies

1457
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:11,040
and i believe everyone's an experiencer

1458
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:12,480
but because they're not taking notice of

1459
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:13,839
their thoughts their feelings their

1460
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:16,640
emotions and sometimes those things are

1461
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:18,079
guiding them in a certain way and then

1462
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:20,319
it turns out to be right they just fob

1463
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,079
it off as um a coincidence

1464
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:26,160
but that gets to a point where it starts

1465
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:27,520
getting beyond a coincidence and we

1466
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:29,119
start saying synchronicities which lead

1467
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,200
on to other things

1468
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:32,880
well i had

1469
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:34,240
you know one

1470
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:37,040
real solid ufo sighting

1471
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,240
and that's it

1472
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:41,200
you know and so i i wonder how that

1473
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:43,920
works in your in your thoughts like

1474
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:46,240
shouldn't i have more be because i had

1475
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:48,960
that one and then another question we're

1476
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:51,040
going to be just about out of time here

1477
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:52,880
but another question is what about mass

1478
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:55,599
sightings when say all these people

1479
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,200
let's just say the phoenix lights for

1480
00:52:01,270 --> 00:51:59,200
one all these people were outside uh

1481
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:01,280
looking up at a comet

1482
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:02,160
and

1483
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,119
then they saw this craft go over lots

1484
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:06,960
and lots and lots of people

1485
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:09,119
um so

1486
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,000
and i don't know did some people see it

1487
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,920
and standing next to people that didn't

1488
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:15,119
see it

1489
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:16,400
you know

1490
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:18,079
oh there's probably some people that

1491
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:19,599
will look i haven't got an answer for

1492
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:21,119
that i haven't got an answer for that

1493
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:23,040
i've got theories about that there would

1494
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,400
have been some people that were there

1495
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:26,400
during those sightings that just

1496
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:27,680
probably didn't say a thing or they

1497
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:29,119
weren't perceiving it as something

1498
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:30,559
anomalous

1499
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,839
100 percent um with you having a siding

1500
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:35,040
and never having

1501
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:37,200
you haven't had a siding since

1502
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:38,000
right

1503
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:39,920
well i had what i thought was one but i

1504
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:42,240
don't you know turns out it was probably

1505
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,480
not yeah i i think these things just

1506
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,559
happened sometimes people just

1507
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:48,400
experience it sometimes like i think

1508
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,000
whatever happens is meant to be but

1509
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:51,839
sometimes people just have an experience

1510
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,440
and that's it

1511
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,359
that's what it is it's like it's

1512
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,720
life-changing because you've seen

1513
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:59,119
something defies the physics and law of

1514
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:00,960
things that you know

1515
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,480
but

1516
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:04,240
some people if they experience it and

1517
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:05,760
they're not opening up enough and that

1518
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:06,880
was part of their journey that's what

1519
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:08,240
they'll experience sometimes that's all

1520
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:09,440
your mental experience like this is

1521
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:10,480
where i say

1522
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:11,920
you're asking me a question that might

1523
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:13,599
be yes or no but i've got to tell you

1524
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:15,280
again the answers are sitting in the

1525
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,200
gray area which are

1526
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:19,440
there's many sort of ways you could look

1527
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:21,520
at this and theorize about it

1528
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:24,000
all i know is what's happening for me

1529
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:25,280
and what seems to be coming from the

1530
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,800
research and the researchers that i've

1531
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:28,800
been working with

1532
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,800
yeah very good well we're ready to go on

1533
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,200
the break so if you're over at kgra

1534
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:35,760
radio we'll be back

1535
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:37,280
in three minutes

1536
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:40,160
and if you're watching live right now uh

1537
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:42,079
we will be going into a three-minute

1538
00:54:01,100 --> 00:53:43,440
music break and we'll be back right

1539
00:55:26,150 --> 00:54:25,450
[Music]

1540
00:55:26,160 --> 00:56:10,500
so

1541
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:22,270
[Music]

1542
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:49,510
all right we're back uh by the way all

1543
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:52,000
music that is played here on the show is

1544
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,520
by carrie lloyd

1545
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:55,680
whitehouse he lives in ireland he makes

1546
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:57,440
music for movies that one sounded like

1547
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:00,480
he came out of a movie somehow uh my

1548
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,440
guest today is peter maxwell slatterly

1549
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,680
and bringing him right back in peter one

1550
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:08,640
of the things you said uh that i

1551
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,200
really it really hit home just because

1552
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:13,599
it was just last week i played a clip

1553
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:17,200
from a woman that i met out in phoenix

1554
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:18,559
recently

1555
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:19,359
where

1556
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,000
she was only 14 years old when she had

1557
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:24,400
the sighting back in 1973

1558
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:26,240
and that video is up on my youtube

1559
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:27,200
channel

1560
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:28,160
and

1561
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:31,680
she said that she was compelled

1562
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:34,319
to look up over her shoulder

1563
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:37,359
and there it was like something

1564
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:39,359
made her look over her shoulder she it

1565
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:40,640
wasn't

1566
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,119
you know she felt like she had to do it

1567
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:45,119
uh maybe i'm putting words in her mouth

1568
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:47,200
but that's what she was getting at when

1569
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,640
she said that

1570
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,400
and and by the way before i move on from

1571
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,920
that i i have

1572
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:54,000
a lot of people have emailed me wow she

1573
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:56,160
was great uh

1574
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,839
why did you have her on such a short

1575
00:58:03,030 --> 00:57:59,839
time well i have people on for real

1576
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,040
short clips so i can put them on during

1577
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:05,440
during commercial breaks and but she

1578
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:07,040
will be back on some people a lot of

1579
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:09,520
people have asked uh if she can be on

1580
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:11,280
and talk about it more so she will be a

1581
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:12,799
guest on the show at some point next

1582
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,520
year

1583
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:15,280
but anyway

1584
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:17,599
the compelling part that's not the first

1585
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,400
time i've heard that uh you know i know

1586
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,400
someone that's had a lot of sightings

1587
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:24,880
and filmed a lot of sightings that he

1588
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:27,920
said the same thing like he just

1589
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,720
knew

1590
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:30,880
that he had to look out the window of

1591
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:33,280
the jet airplane at that certain time

1592
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:35,359
and there this thing was and he filmed

1593
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:38,720
it so it's it's pretty uh

1594
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:40,240
it's compelling

1595
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:42,160
it's just hard because if you tell that

1596
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:44,000
to somebody

1597
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:45,599
because again this community's been

1598
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:47,040
trying to keep it nuts and bolts and

1599
00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:48,960
don't get me wrong we need the nuts and

1600
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:50,720
bolts component just as we need just as

1601
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:52,079
much as we need the consciousness

1602
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:53,359
component

1603
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:56,240
looking at things from that that way but

1604
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,319
it's repeated like you said you've

1605
00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:00,319
mentioned a few people and that's the

1606
00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:01,520
part that i'm trying to say is to

1607
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:03,520
communication but because you can't see

1608
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:05,280
touch taste smell anyone will see them

1609
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:06,960
physically

1610
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:08,559
we we're doubting it but that's the way

1611
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,160
that telepathy work it's the way that

1612
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:11,920
psychics work it's the way that remote

1613
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:13,440
viewers work though they work in a

1614
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:14,880
different way that they'll articulate

1615
00:59:19,109 --> 00:59:16,720
and get the information out

1616
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,119
but it's a very um i think it's

1617
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,200
worthwhile for very in-depth

1618
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:23,359
investigation and even more studies in

1619
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:26,799
that realm of we could say intuition

1620
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,559
psychic development what i call thought

1621
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:30,000
transfer

1622
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,280
because not only is it how i see it as

1623
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:34,799
the main mechanism with most of these

1624
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:37,359
other races or beings but also it can

1625
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,520
work with spirits ghosts it could work

1626
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:40,880
with what would say other types of

1627
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:43,200
phenomena uh that are out there as well

1628
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:44,559
i believe that that is the main

1629
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,359
mechanism that the communication is done

1630
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,680
universally it's not through muscle mass

1631
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:51,359
we could say with geometry and things

1632
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:52,559
like that that

1633
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:55,520
it's a part of um universal language

1634
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:57,599
mathematics is but this is taking it to

1635
01:00:02,150 --> 00:59:59,760
an entire new way that can't be

1636
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:02,160
i guess as tangible as would like it to

1637
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:05,520
be something that we can get on paper

1638
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:08,640
yeah so there is that problem of

1639
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,400
you know i mean

1640
01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:12,400
i i guess

1641
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:14,160
we've been i don't if you want to use

1642
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:16,880
the word fighting we've been

1643
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:19,200
trying to get evidence uh people in the

1644
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:21,839
ufo community that take it seriously

1645
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:22,880
and

1646
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:25,359
uh i'm sure the government too

1647
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,960
you know our government maybe your

1648
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:29,359
government who knows uh are would love

1649
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:31,599
to have like real evidence of these

1650
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:33,440
things there's rumors about evidence and

1651
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:34,480
all that but

1652
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:37,200
uh but how could there be

1653
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:39,040
any evidence of

1654
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:41,280
of this whole thing of what you're

1655
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:42,559
saying

1656
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:44,400
well like i said

1657
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:47,520
repeatable times not just myself but

1658
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:49,280
james gilliland i could probably name 10

1659
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:51,119
other people that i know

1660
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:52,640
that know when the crafts are there what

1661
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:54,640
time location what they're going to do

1662
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:57,040
and then you go there and you film it

1663
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,880
and it happens that's repeatable that's

1664
01:01:01,270 --> 01:01:00,319
the form of science just because they

1665
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:01,280
can't

1666
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:04,160
get onto the object and interface with

1667
01:01:06,549 --> 01:01:05,680
the object themselves i'll doubt it but

1668
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:06,559
how

1669
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:08,559
isn't it beyond a coincidence that i

1670
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:10,480
might say a date time

1671
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:11,839
location

1672
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,599
then the craft appears

1673
01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:15,599
and i've repeated it isn't that science

1674
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:17,839
as well

1675
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:19,280
it might not be in the way again that

1676
01:01:22,829 --> 01:01:20,799
you can test materials you can talk to

1677
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:22,839
the beings and whatnot

1678
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:26,000
but usually you've got an aim method and

1679
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:27,520
conclusion

1680
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:29,280
the aim

1681
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:30,319
crafts

1682
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:32,480
let's say a method the communication

1683
01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:34,480
conclusion is it actually happens and

1684
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:40,470
repeatable well it's also elusive at the

1685
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:43,040
same time you know i mean you say it's

1686
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:45,760
repeatable but and and you know perhaps

1687
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:48,960
it is but um it's

1688
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:50,799
that's been the problem all along is

1689
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:53,599
that it's it's not something that

1690
01:01:57,029 --> 01:01:55,039
you know you know you mentioned a couple

1691
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:57,039
of times that you can go out and

1692
01:02:02,069 --> 01:01:58,960
whatever it is right there or whatever

1693
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,079
and and i have heard that before but

1694
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,839
you know you can't really

1695
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:05,280
no one really knows when these things

1696
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:07,760
are going to show up basically

1697
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,000
in other cases no and sometimes i don't

1698
01:02:14,309 --> 01:02:12,480
as well but sometimes you do

1699
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:14,319
so

1700
01:02:17,589 --> 01:02:16,160
we could say it's almost like a tornado

1701
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:17,599
they're trying to use sinus for that in

1702
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:18,960
some ways that they can predict it

1703
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:21,200
within 15 minutes but other times you

1704
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:22,960
get these freak f5s to come out

1705
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:24,559
absolutely nowhere in an area that they

1706
01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:25,920
weren't expecting and it does a lot of

1707
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:27,039
damage

1708
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:29,280
so this is where it's a continuous thing

1709
01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:31,119
in work again i don't have all the

1710
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:34,160
answers but what i am telling you and i

1711
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:35,839
think it needs to just start to be

1712
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:37,440
noticed by the community is that this

1713
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:38,720
does have

1714
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:41,520
a consciousness awareness aspect to it

1715
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:42,960
and unfortunately a lot of people like

1716
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,680
me

1717
01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:45,520
who've been speaking about this since

1718
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:47,039
i've been born have got a lot of crap

1719
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:48,960
for it but it's where it eventually lays

1720
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,349
interesting i have a clip here i'm going

1721
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:55,359
to try to play it and i would like for

1722
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:56,720
you to tell me

1723
01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:59,200
if you hear the audio once this starts

1724
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:01,680
i'm not sure if it's going to be set up

1725
01:03:06,549 --> 01:03:03,280
for it or not but tell me if you hear

1726
01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:08,549
i can just hear it

1727
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:09,839
but a brave

1728
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:10,720
man

1729
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:11,920
who

1730
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:14,559
simply made a choice to operate on his

1731
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:16,640
personal convictions based on the

1732
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,470
so uh why i'm playing this

1733
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:24,000
came to the scene to work with the

1734
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:25,680
children he's here parents and the

1735
01:03:29,589 --> 01:03:28,240
teachers still suffering from shock john

1736
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:29,599
who essentially

1737
01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:31,760
in child psychiatry devoted a great deal

1738
01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:34,799
of time to interviewing the children

1739
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:37,920
something scared you was that right

1740
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:40,559
look what scared you the voice what

1741
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:42,000
noise

1742
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:56,870
[Music]

1743
01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:03,910
i saw

1744
01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:06,549
this object hovering it was quite big

1745
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:08,559
actually and then there were little ones

1746
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:21,829
how many of the strange things did you

1747
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:22,880
see

1748
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:25,280
i saw one over here they

1749
01:04:27,829 --> 01:04:27,039
they had eyes like that

1750
01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:27,839
and

1751
01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:29,680
they were kind of just like looking at

1752
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:32,559
us they were like kind of astonished

1753
01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:33,760
the eyes were

1754
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:35,920
like more pointed as they came in toward

1755
01:04:40,050 --> 01:04:50,390
[Music]

1756
01:04:54,549 --> 01:04:53,270
was he near the silver object or was he

1757
01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:54,559
fought

1758
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:57,440
on top of the silver object okay

1759
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:58,880
and

1760
01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,160
um

1761
01:05:03,510 --> 01:05:01,920
did you look at him

1762
01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:03,520
did he look at you

1763
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:05,280
he gave me the crease there

1764
01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:07,039
creeps actually in your drawing you

1765
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:08,640
showed him standing up didn't you he

1766
01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:10,160
said i'm standing up because i couldn't

1767
01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:19,990
what i thought was maybe

1768
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:21,200
the world was going to end and

1769
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:23,200
everything telling us the world's gonna

1770
01:05:27,430 --> 01:05:25,440
end i can tell i mean i know this is

1771
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:27,440
something that a person wants me to

1772
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:29,680
believe or they're frightened or they're

1773
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:31,440
distorting reality in some way there's

1774
01:05:36,549 --> 01:05:33,920
nothing like that here these are people

1775
01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:36,559
of sound mind by and large

1776
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:39,520
telling me something that's very

1777
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:41,839
they know that i might

1778
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:43,440
think they're crazy and so they're a

1779
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:46,319
little concerned about telling me and

1780
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:47,920
and they they're very full of

1781
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:50,559
questioning themselves and doubt and

1782
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:51,359
i mean

1783
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:53,280
and then they describe something very

1784
01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:55,359
real and intense and light or something

1785
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:57,520
happened to the body or

1786
01:06:02,069 --> 01:05:59,839
it's the whole quality of the way they

1787
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:02,079
talk about it is the way a person

1788
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:03,440
talks about

1789
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,670
so i wanted to to play that because uh

1790
01:06:13,589 --> 01:06:11,200
basically

1791
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:13,599
there there's it kind of

1792
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:16,000
dovetails into what we're talking about

1793
01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:17,680
now these are young impressionable

1794
01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:19,359
children

1795
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:21,200
this is the arielle school incident back

1796
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:23,280
in 1994.

1797
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:25,760
to me i think it's the most intriguing

1798
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:33,430
but there was

1799
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:34,880
some of these children saying they were

1800
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:37,039
getting messages

1801
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,319
and

1802
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:40,799
a lot of the messages that they

1803
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:43,520
were saying they were getting had to do

1804
01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:44,640
with

1805
01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:47,760
taking care of this planet

1806
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:49,839
and so i guess the question have you

1807
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:51,039
ever had

1808
01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:52,559
any thoughts

1809
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:54,640
transferred or whatever you're talking

1810
01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:55,520
about

1811
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:59,039
um that are along those lines of of uh

1812
01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:00,720
you know taking care of this planet has

1813
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:02,000
that ever been

1814
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:03,680
part of it yeah

1815
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:05,760
yeah i think not just that but how we

1816
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:07,839
treat each other what we do the planet

1817
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:09,760
how we could be more eco-friendly and

1818
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:11,760
self-sufficient in a way that's not so

1819
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:15,280
um unproductive to to mother earth and

1820
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:16,480
and the environment and the things that

1821
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:19,680
we're doing so this is a very uh

1822
01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:21,200
this has been part of the messages but

1823
01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:22,880
you also see it's a common theme when

1824
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,240
i've talked to other people that there's

1825
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,640
been messages for them

1826
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:28,960
as well and i think i'm glad you showed

1827
01:07:32,789 --> 01:07:31,280
that mary rodwell quotes john mack in

1828
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:32,799
the movie

1829
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:34,880
and i think for the people that

1830
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:36,559
again i don't i don't want anyone

1831
01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:38,400
watching this to believe me i've got to

1832
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:39,839
say that to start off with i think the

1833
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:42,480
problem that we've got is blind belief

1834
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:44,720
that's what's got us in a predicament in

1835
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:46,480
all the areas that we need to work on is

1836
01:07:49,589 --> 01:07:48,400
blind belief whether it's religion

1837
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:49,599
whether it's the government whether it's

1838
01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:52,079
politicians whether it's whatever

1839
01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:54,079
i want people to investigate and i think

1840
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,240
something great to start to get into

1841
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:58,319
what i'm talking about today

1842
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,359
would be

1843
01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:01,200
somebody with an outstanding background

1844
01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:03,839
like professor john mack because he he

1845
01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:06,640
went into what i'm talking about

1846
01:08:12,309 --> 01:08:09,039
from a psychological point of view

1847
01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:12,319
of how these cannot be something that's

1848
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:14,079
made up of course there's mentally ill

1849
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:15,280
people and there's

1850
01:08:19,590 --> 01:08:17,839
there's there's always an if

1851
01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:19,600
but when you look at this and especially

1852
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:21,359
his case studies you start to see that

1853
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:23,279
this has got substance to what the

1854
01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:24,960
person has experienced and i think

1855
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:26,799
that's something that from a medical

1856
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:28,640
background standpoint and even some of

1857
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:30,799
the ways that he studied and researched

1858
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,279
this phenomena over the years is a great

1859
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:35,040
footing for some people to get into the

1860
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:37,679
stuff that i'm talking about

1861
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:38,400
right

1862
01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:43,839
he did get in there and interview those

1863
01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:45,920
kids you know within that short period

1864
01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:46,880
of time

1865
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,719
and so

1866
01:08:51,669 --> 01:08:50,640
there are a lot

1867
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:51,679
of

1868
01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:53,279
children

1869
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:55,759
that have sightings a lot of schoolyard

1870
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:56,880
sightings

1871
01:09:01,510 --> 01:08:59,040
preston dennett wrote a book and and

1872
01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:01,520
came up with i think it was 120 of them

1873
01:09:05,349 --> 01:09:03,120
or something like that

1874
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,359
and there's a lot more because i keep

1875
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,960
hearing about

1876
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:08,560
you know people are contacting me oh

1877
01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:11,440
yeah that happened at my school

1878
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,560
so

1879
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:14,239
would you think that

1880
01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:15,839
in the thoughts that you're having of

1881
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:18,880
what's going on that children are more

1882
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:22,960
open-minded or more impressionable what

1883
01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:24,400
what would be the connection why there's

1884
01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:27,040
so many of those

1885
01:09:30,390 --> 01:09:28,799
i think there's a few aspects to it i

1886
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:30,400
think the children these days are

1887
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:32,799
operating on a different bandwidth

1888
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:35,440
highly intelligent in a lot of cases

1889
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:37,040
they're seeing the world in a different

1890
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:38,560
way but they're

1891
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:40,480
they're less programmed like i was

1892
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:42,400
speaking about earlier

1893
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,040
a lot of kids are divine not just to be

1894
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:48,239
not to be um disrespectful

1895
01:09:51,829 --> 01:09:50,000
they just see practical different ways

1896
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:51,839
of doing things that are more productive

1897
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:54,400
and then they go about it so

1898
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,280
whether

1899
01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:57,360
it's a mixture of that mixed within

1900
01:10:02,149 --> 01:09:59,360
they're less what i call socially

1901
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:02,159
engineered because they're young

1902
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:03,600
they're they're pretty much a blank

1903
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:04,719
slate and they're open to all

1904
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:06,719
possibility and so they're less filtered

1905
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:07,840
through the lens that they're viewing

1906
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:09,199
this reality when there is something

1907
01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:11,840
like this if they experience this

1908
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,520
then you have the flip side that you got

1909
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:15,679
some parents that are very spiritual and

1910
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:17,520
the kids can be influenced by that as

1911
01:10:21,430 --> 01:10:19,520
well

1912
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:21,440
and this is where i've worked with a lot

1913
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:22,960
of children over the years and some

1914
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:25,360
children that i've met with the parents

1915
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:27,120
very impressionable in terms of you know

1916
01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:28,640
that that's their experience and then

1917
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,880
sometimes you think well it might be a

1918
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:32,480
bit either way here because the parents

1919
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,840
are into the spiritual stuff and they

1920
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:35,360
talk about it in front of their children

1921
01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:36,640
and they're watching youtube on

1922
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:38,000
spiritual stuff and all that so you

1923
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:40,159
wonder are they influenced by that or is

1924
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:41,920
it really their only information that

1925
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,159
they're getting at the same time so it's

1926
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,800
a bit of a mixed bag there but i think

1927
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:48,400
were you bringing up this topic one

1928
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:49,679
great case that a lot of people are

1929
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:53,360
unaware of is west hall 66 oh yes

1930
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:54,480
yeah

1931
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,719
200 students school teachers i've even

1932
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:58,480
gone to the spot and there's still the

1933
01:11:01,750 --> 01:10:59,760
there's an impression from one of the

1934
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:01,760
crafts to this day

1935
01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:03,440
in the grange at the back of the grange

1936
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:05,120
area from where one of these crafts

1937
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:06,080
landed

1938
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:08,000
that's a very intriguing case with 200

1939
01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:09,920
students and teachers that have

1940
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:11,600
experienced these two crafts from what i

1941
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:13,440
remember in broad daylight

1942
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:15,199
right so then you they were locked in a

1943
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:17,520
hall with american personnel and and uh

1944
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:20,320
australian i think military and and

1945
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:21,840
personnel going there telling them that

1946
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:23,679
this did not happen

1947
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,560
so

1948
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:26,480
but at the same time the same year you

1949
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:28,880
had the inception of pine gap which is a

1950
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,679
joint space to fill facility between

1951
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:33,920
america and australia but really it had

1952
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,719
a cia backing to it as well

1953
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,960
and also our i can't remember the prime

1954
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:40,400
minister's name he went missing that

1955
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:42,000
year as well and was never found again

1956
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:44,960
so you had a lot happen in 1966.

1957
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:47,440
wow i'd never heard that part wow

1958
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:48,480
interesting

1959
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:50,560
yeah um

1960
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:52,560
i probably should have brought up that

1961
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:55,920
case instead of the ariel school

1962
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:57,600
from what i know i think there was one

1963
01:12:00,390 --> 01:11:58,800
person at west store that had

1964
01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:00,400
interactions with the intelligence and

1965
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,920
they actually went missing they were

1966
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:04,080
taken away not by the craft of buyer

1967
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:06,080
military personnel from what i remember

1968
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:07,280
but were there

1969
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:09,520
was it the young girl

1970
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:11,280
from what i remember now i don't know if

1971
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,880
she was seen again in later years or if

1972
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:14,320
it was just for a short period of time

1973
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:15,840
but i remember that one person that

1974
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:17,679
apparently touched the craft they were

1975
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,280
whisked away

1976
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:21,360
um separated from the school but the

1977
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,960
zimbabwe case is very interesting

1978
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:24,320
because you've got multiple children

1979
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:25,760
telling the same story and they're also

1980
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:27,280
describing not just the craft but the

1981
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:29,280
beings as well so

1982
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:30,960
and the messages as well you know you've

1983
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:32,080
got the message component and the

1984
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:34,400
communication going on

1985
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:37,600
when i spoke with selma siddik who is

1986
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:40,159
one of the people that was she was right

1987
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:41,440
there she said

1988
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:44,880
she was within four feet of the being

1989
01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:45,840
and

1990
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:47,280
she said that

1991
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:49,280
you know i asked her to describe the

1992
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:51,760
being you know the black eyes she said

1993
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:54,560
the skin was white she said almost look

1994
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:56,080
like porcelain

1995
01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:57,679
she said that the best way she could

1996
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,840
describe it is the skin look like

1997
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,120
porcelain

1998
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:03,120
and she also said that

1999
01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:05,440
breaking eye contact with this being to

2000
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:07,840
go check on her siblings was one of the

2001
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:10,480
hardest things she ever did in her life

2002
01:13:16,709 --> 01:13:13,600
is to break away at that point

2003
01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:16,719
um so i guess i'll ask you have you had

2004
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,719
like these type of encounters do you

2005
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:20,159
think you've had these type of

2006
01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:22,719
encounters i don't think i know just

2007
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:25,600
like i'm talking to you now

2008
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:29,520
and and what is is that are these verbal

2009
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:30,960
encounters or

2010
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:32,960
is it all just

2011
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:34,880
things you can i mean

2012
01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:36,719
are you communicating i mean is that

2013
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:37,440
yeah

2014
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:43,679
early stages of this

2015
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:45,679
there's two parts it's thought and the

2016
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:48,320
other component is there was at times

2017
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:51,280
and still it almost sounds like

2018
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:53,040
have you right so for anyone listening

2019
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:54,560
if they're a musician or a guitarist

2020
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:56,400
especially

2021
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:58,159
it works better on an acoustic guitar

2022
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:00,640
but if you put your chin on the acoustic

2023
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:02,000
guitar and hit a string you actually

2024
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:03,600
feel like it's vibrating into your

2025
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:06,080
conscious like into your head yeah

2026
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:07,600
yeah right so

2027
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:10,400
i've had it where i've had voices like

2028
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:12,239
that that it was it's nothing to do with

2029
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:14,480
the eardrums nothing to do with the like

2030
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,560
me hearing an external voice is within

2031
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,320
me with the vibration that i would hear

2032
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:21,120
words with a neutral accent that would

2033
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,920
be in english other times predominantly

2034
01:14:27,430 --> 01:14:25,600
is purely through thought and the

2035
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:27,440
thoughts will have visions and there

2036
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:30,080
will be feelings associated with it so

2037
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:32,400
very early on that's how it was more

2038
01:14:37,750 --> 01:14:34,640
like an acoustic at times it wasn't very

2039
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,760
often at all i feel that that was more

2040
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:39,360
for me to be receptive because it was

2041
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:41,120
thoughts at times coming with it but i

2042
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:43,120
wasn't understanding it like it took me

2043
01:14:46,149 --> 01:14:44,719
years to understand when i'm getting the

2044
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:46,159
thought to go outside and look up the

2045
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:47,760
crafts there

2046
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:49,920
it was actually communication

2047
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:51,520
but because i wasn't having somebody

2048
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:53,280
stand in front of me saying right we've

2049
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:55,840
got a craft outside and i didn't have an

2050
01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:57,120
external source telling me i was

2051
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:58,719
doubting the thoughts and the feelings

2052
01:15:02,070 --> 01:14:59,920
that were being

2053
01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:02,080
uh of the form of

2054
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:04,159
communication

2055
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:06,000
well let's just say this

2056
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:13,110
um you have an encounter or whatever

2057
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:15,040
i'm just trying to picture everything

2058
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:17,360
okay so let's just say

2059
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:21,360
if there is another dimension do

2060
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:23,760
does someone like you go into their

2061
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:26,400
dimension and if so

2062
01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:27,679
are you

2063
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:29,679
scaring people like we would be scared

2064
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:33,199
of a ghost or scaring people like

2065
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:36,960
a ufo or whatever

2066
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:38,560
there is that component but this is

2067
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:40,800
where i'll say it's not black and white

2068
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:42,480
there is other frequencies that the

2069
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:45,040
physical body can go to very minimal so

2070
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:46,800
what will happen sometimes is i might be

2071
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:49,360
taken physically or teleported

2072
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:51,600
or dematerialized and put somewhere else

2073
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:52,480
and then

2074
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:55,520
my body can't go up further from that so

2075
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,040
my body stays where it is and the

2076
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:59,040
consciousness goes out and it interfaces

2077
01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:00,400
and goes up

2078
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:02,719
it goes up to another frequency to such

2079
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:04,000
a frequency where the body computer

2080
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:05,679
cannot operate

2081
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:07,360
so

2082
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:09,920
there is an overlap of that can be

2083
01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:11,440
happening this is what we see with

2084
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:14,159
hauntings for example that sometimes

2085
01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:15,920
you've got a residual haunting what's a

2086
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:18,800
residual haunting

2087
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:20,719
a residual horning is like an event

2088
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:22,800
playing over and over like a tape that

2089
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:25,280
no matter what you do it's the event's

2090
01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:27,760
going to happen it might be um

2091
01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:30,560
you hear a voice at the same time

2092
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:32,000
every week

2093
01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:33,760
and it's saying the same thing but

2094
01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:35,120
nothing's there and you could record it

2095
01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:37,360
with an electronic uh it's not a it's a

2096
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:39,040
disembodied voice electronic voice

2097
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:40,480
phenomenon is where you don't hear it

2098
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:42,000
but it's being recorded but you actually

2099
01:16:46,630 --> 01:16:44,719
hear this so you can't interface with

2100
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:46,640
that but then there's other hauntings

2101
01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:48,159
you've got where you're actually able to

2102
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:50,560
interface and even reports of where

2103
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:52,719
people are hearing an argument or an

2104
01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:55,120
event happen that was actually them and

2105
01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:56,880
their partner let's say

2106
01:17:00,830 --> 01:16:59,040
but it could be from years ago or it

2107
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:00,840
could be from in the future that's

2108
01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:03,199
overlapping that space time that they're

2109
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:04,719
experiencing

2110
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:07,040
so this is why i say the paranormal the

2111
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:08,719
ufo community and the conscious

2112
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:10,960
community should actually be all working

2113
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:12,320
together because i would find that a lot

2114
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:14,080
of things are overlapping in this

2115
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:15,920
in different scenarios that are coming

2116
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:18,080
from different sources so it's a yes but

2117
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:20,000
it's also but

2118
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:22,320
like i'm saying it's you can't look at

2119
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:25,679
this topic in this situation with yes no

2120
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:27,280
there is so many different things that

2121
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:28,960
even one of the bangs i'm interfacing

2122
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:31,040
with is another aspect of me

2123
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:33,360
that's not human it's from somewhere

2124
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:34,400
else

2125
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:36,239
and i've talked to others and there's

2126
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:38,480
been other reports of this as well

2127
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:39,760
that they're interfacing with other

2128
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:41,360
aspects of their what would you say

2129
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,679
oversoul that's coming through and you

2130
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:45,520
can portray it and it may even be

2131
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:48,719
extraterrestrial but it's operating out

2132
01:17:52,870 --> 01:17:50,560
it's another aspect of shooting from

2133
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:52,880
what we could say the same cell of your

2134
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:54,320
higher self which is a cell of god's

2135
01:17:57,510 --> 01:17:56,000
body the way that it's been articulated

2136
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:57,520
to me

2137
01:18:01,350 --> 01:17:59,440
you uh you do

2138
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:01,360
probably realize that a lot of people

2139
01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:03,760
are going to think this is like way out

2140
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:06,080
there compared to you know a lot of the

2141
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:08,640
nuts and bolts ufos that i talk about on

2142
01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:11,520
this show so uh so we'll probably get a

2143
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,760
little bit of that for feedback just so

2144
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:15,120
you remember

2145
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:17,360
yeah i've been putting up with this for

2146
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:18,400
years

2147
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:19,760
and that's why the community is going

2148
01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:21,920
nowhere it's not that i'm right but what

2149
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:23,679
i'll tell you is people have a right for

2150
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:25,360
a difference of opinion

2151
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:27,840
what i'm fed up with is people being

2152
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:30,080
a-s-s about it

2153
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:30,960
yeah

2154
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,440
right they have no right to do that this

2155
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:35,360
is this is a very important topic and

2156
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:37,280
that's why when i see the comments in

2157
01:18:41,189 --> 01:18:39,520
the way people put me down that's why

2158
01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:41,199
the world's the way it is

2159
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:42,400
doesn't mean you've got to agree with

2160
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:43,760
somebody but when people are totally

2161
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:46,080
disrespectful where it's not

2162
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:47,920
i've been being mean to them in any way

2163
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,000
and i get hate mail but i'll tell you

2164
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:52,239
what just as much respect from this

2165
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:53,920
community than i do disrespect and

2166
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:54,960
that's why it's getting nowhere because

2167
01:18:59,110 --> 01:18:56,960
of the way we that we treat each other

2168
01:19:02,790 --> 01:18:59,120
yeah yeah well you know no matter what i

2169
01:19:05,590 --> 01:19:02,800
do i i get the same mail you know uh

2170
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:05,600
often and uh criticized a lot and uh but

2171
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:09,120
i just you know uh advice from my son

2172
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:11,040
when i started this show

2173
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:14,880
years ago was take all the um gratitude

2174
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:16,239
and all the

2175
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:18,800
uh criticism with the same grain of salt

2176
01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:20,719
just be happy with what you're doing and

2177
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:23,679
uh so i i just keep plugging in

2178
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:26,000
and uh happily celebrated 10 years of

2179
01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:27,120
doing this as i mentioned

2180
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:30,159
congratulations that's amazing yeah so

2181
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:31,840
but anyway uh

2182
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,000
it's another thought now i i will tell

2183
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:36,800
you that probably about 15

2184
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:39,920
years maybe 10 years prior to my ufo

2185
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:43,520
sighting i had a a poltergeist situation

2186
01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:45,679
i don't know what else to call it uh

2187
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:48,320
something was moving something

2188
01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:51,280
it happened i witnessed it firsthand it

2189
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:54,719
was uh scared the heck out of me because

2190
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:58,000
i was alone in a house uh door slamming

2191
01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:59,600
a broom leaning up against the door

2192
01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:01,360
after the door slams you know all this

2193
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:02,239
weird

2194
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:06,000
witnessed it firsthand and for a long

2195
01:20:09,270 --> 01:20:07,520
time i didn't tell anyone i thought no

2196
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:09,280
one would ever believe me

2197
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:11,440
um but so

2198
01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:13,280
you you're saying that it's possible

2199
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:15,360
that i encountered this

2200
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:16,719
and then

2201
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:18,560
later was

2202
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:20,159
maybe i was open up

2203
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:22,400
oh open-minded enough i i don't feel

2204
01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:24,239
like i was i wasn't expecting anything

2205
01:20:29,189 --> 01:20:27,040
to happen and it came in in some cases

2206
01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:29,199
but i'm not saying in these cases like

2207
01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:31,520
with you but that is in some cases that

2208
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:32,719
could be the possibility that they've

2209
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:34,239
opened up to an experience and then

2210
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:35,360
other things

2211
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:37,120
they start to experience and it could

2212
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:39,440
take years i know some experiences that

2213
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:41,120
will not talk about their experiences

2214
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:43,120
and as soon as they do they might not

2215
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:44,560
talk about anything for 10 years then

2216
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:46,400
they'll have another experience so this

2217
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:48,000
is where

2218
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:50,320
the these intelligences in some cases

2219
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:51,840
can pick up on your thought on your

2220
01:20:55,510 --> 01:20:54,000
intentions and it's very not

2221
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:55,520
acknowledgeable on their part but we're

2222
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:57,520
not sort of understanding that

2223
01:21:03,669 --> 01:21:01,199
so whether that was the case i can't say

2224
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:03,679
um but it is interesting how many people

2225
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:05,920
have had we could say ufo sighting but

2226
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:07,600
also they've had a paranormal experience

2227
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:10,159
or vice versa over it could be years

2228
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:13,440
span in between that amount of time

2229
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:15,840
yeah yeah well i'm going to pull up

2230
01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:16,800
another

2231
01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:18,400
video of yours i want to ask you about

2232
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:20,480
and i'm going to share that again i will

2233
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:23,280
link up things too

2234
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:25,040
let's not let me do that for some reason

2235
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:26,800
maybe here it is okay

2236
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:28,560
i will link things to

2237
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:29,679
this

2238
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,800
remember the exact

2239
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,400
date at the moment there was actually

2240
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:44,239
two days of experiences where i had

2241
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:46,480
missing time at a pine forest where my

2242
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:51,990
yeah that's a photo that is a photo i

2243
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:52,880
actually

2244
01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:54,239
oh sort of

2245
01:21:59,189 --> 01:21:56,719
embarrassing to say this i i was in

2246
01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:59,199
america and i bought this easy camera to

2247
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:00,880
keep on me from walmart when i was in

2248
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:03,520
washington so i was actually hood river

2249
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:04,639
and

2250
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:06,560
i charged it up i hadn't used it for

2251
01:22:10,310 --> 01:22:08,719
probably a year or so

2252
01:22:11,510 --> 01:22:10,320
but i thought i might start using this

2253
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:11,520
than the other cameras that i got

2254
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:12,960
because they're a bit bulkier just to

2255
01:22:18,629 --> 01:22:14,800
keep a camera on me

2256
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:18,639
and that camera had no sd card in it but

2257
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:20,480
it would take i think two or three

2258
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:22,239
photos without the card in it so i would

2259
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:23,840
have got video or would have got more

2260
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:24,800
pics

2261
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:27,120
but i was so and it was two days in a

2262
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:28,719
row at the same time the next day i

2263
01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:29,920
totally forgot because i'm used to just

2264
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:31,840
having a card in my camera and i

2265
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:33,520
remember telling john verbanko and jason

2266
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:35,440
gleaves when i sent them the photo and

2267
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:37,600
uh james about this as well and i was

2268
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:39,840
just angry at myself for not putting a

2269
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:42,880
frigging card in that camera but um

2270
01:22:47,030 --> 01:22:44,320
yeah we wouldn't have those snaps if

2271
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:47,040
that camera didn't allow um

2272
01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:48,800
yeah i found out there is a function

2273
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:50,320
where some cameras will take one two

2274
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:51,520
three picks but that's all they've got

2275
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:54,639
without an sd card and that was taken

2276
01:23:00,229 --> 01:22:57,600
yeah yeah oh i've i'm i'm king of doing

2277
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:00,239
things like that you know

2278
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:02,320
when it happens watch this it's

2279
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:06,000
frustrating yeah i went to phoenix and i

2280
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:09,440
had my camera a video camera there and i

2281
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:11,199
had a video card

2282
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:14,400
whoops i i don't know what i did here

2283
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,470
i don't know what uh let me just see

2284
01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:22,239
what happened here

2285
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,080
here we go i'm not sure what exactly

2286
01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:26,400
happened there but anyway i

2287
01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:28,320
i

2288
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:30,639
had everyone look through my back

2289
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:33,040
to find this because i couldn't find it

2290
01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:35,360
it's it's a small card it's you know i

2291
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:38,560
don't know maybe this big it's like

2292
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:41,840
three by say two uh or four by two

2293
01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:43,040
something like that

2294
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:44,880
anyway we all look through the bag it

2295
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:47,280
wasn't there i had to use my

2296
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:48,000
my

2297
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:49,679
cam uh

2298
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:52,880
my webcam on a tripod and had someone

2299
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:54,320
you know

2300
01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:56,480
had someone behind the camera doing it

2301
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:57,199
that

2302
01:24:01,030 --> 01:23:58,800
we made it happen

2303
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:01,040
but i got back and i'm thinking wonder

2304
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:02,480
where this thing is

2305
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:04,320
looking all over my office

2306
01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:06,880
and then i i look at the bag that i

2307
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:09,280
brought with me arizona and and there it

2308
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:10,800
is right there i grabbed it right away

2309
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:12,560
right in the bag it was there all along

2310
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:14,880
and i never saw it these things happened

2311
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:17,520
to me i haven't yeah yeah

2312
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:19,360
the other flick authorities are i have

2313
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:20,800
another experience of something like

2314
01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:22,080
that with the card happening but

2315
01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:23,280
different

2316
01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:26,159
i was in the same area about

2317
01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:27,920
three or four years before that footage

2318
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:29,840
you saw there in the photo and i

2319
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:31,360
actually had james gilliland with me

2320
01:24:35,350 --> 01:24:34,080
from america and a family member

2321
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:35,360
and

2322
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:37,040
there was something about it was an orb

2323
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,960
about the size of a two-story house

2324
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,880
probably about 30 foot off the ground

2325
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,639
and i filmed it and it blinked out on it

2326
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:46,639
so i had about a minute and a half worth

2327
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:48,880
of footage

2328
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:50,480
and we're thinking this is amazing

2329
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:52,080
footage this is going to be epic and

2330
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:55,280
i've gone to put it into the computer

2331
01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:57,360
and nothing was on there and i know it

2332
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:59,199
was recording but nothing was on the

2333
01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:00,239
card

2334
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:02,159
yeah and that would have been amazing

2335
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:03,679
footage to be able to show but that's

2336
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:04,800
yeah

2337
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,679
technology in sometimes the story

2338
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:09,360
a lot of people have talked about

2339
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,239
filming ufos and their camera didn't

2340
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:14,880
work or the battery died instantly

2341
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:16,719
you know there's there's a there's a lot

2342
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:17,840
of weird

2343
01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:23,040
uh you mentioned that you've had some

2344
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:25,040
experiences that were not so good i

2345
01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:26,480
don't know if that's something you'd

2346
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:28,400
want to talk about

2347
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:30,159
i don't want to focus on it too much but

2348
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:32,960
there has been entities one entity i'll

2349
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:38,790
and

2350
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:41,920
this was an experience that was

2351
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:44,000
the only way i could describe it is i i

2352
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:46,239
went to bed one night

2353
01:25:50,709 --> 01:25:48,480
and i used to sleep in this place i had

2354
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:50,719
at the time with i had these french

2355
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:52,239
horizontal blinds that i would leave

2356
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,679
slightly open so the street light would

2357
01:25:57,669 --> 01:25:54,880
come in so if i had to get up or

2358
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:57,679
anything was going on i could just see

2359
01:26:01,510 --> 01:25:59,440
and as soon as i got into bed one night

2360
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:01,520
there was an entity now his head was

2361
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:03,120
slightly above my head when i'm lying

2362
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:05,280
down so this this thing had to have been

2363
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:06,320
short

2364
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:07,360
and when i

2365
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:09,199
what i first felt was like an energy

2366
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,040
where it felt like my heart was being

2367
01:26:15,510 --> 01:26:13,679
pulled into my stomach almost like the a

2368
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:15,520
g-force from a roller coaster if that's

2369
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:17,440
what you'd call it that sort of

2370
01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:18,880
that's what i felt like but i was just

2371
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:21,040
sitting there and when i opened my eye i

2372
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:23,760
could see an eye this big this far from

2373
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:25,920
my head and i've sort of taken a back

2374
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:27,280
bite

2375
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:30,000
and i could see scales all over this

2376
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:31,600
massive eye

2377
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:33,360
and i was just

2378
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,679
it was the worst feeling

2379
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:37,280
but then something kicked into my

2380
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:39,360
consciousness to where i felt sorry for

2381
01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:41,600
this being if this is how it felt or if

2382
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:44,080
it was generating that

2383
01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:47,199
and at that time it was almost how i was

2384
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:49,280
responding it now is responding that way

2385
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:50,800
and i had the upper hand where i was

2386
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:52,000
calm

2387
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:54,080
the only way i can describe it is that

2388
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:56,159
this entity

2389
01:27:00,629 --> 01:26:57,760
it turned into smoke and just

2390
01:27:04,470 --> 01:27:02,870
like a ghost like that apparition sort

2391
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,480
of

2392
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:06,480
substance whatever you want to call it

2393
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:08,000
is what happened and then it was gone

2394
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:09,440
but the feeling was like the most

2395
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:12,000
dreaded feeling i've ever had

2396
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:12,800
wow

2397
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:16,960
people say negative

2398
01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:19,120
i was uh i was on someone else's show

2399
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:21,520
recently and you know they

2400
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:24,320
they when i said it

2401
01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:26,239
you know they the question always comes

2402
01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:28,719
up of course it's kind of what our topic

2403
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:31,120
is today and what do you think they are

2404
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:32,960
what are they what do they want that

2405
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,960
type of thing and i mentioned something

2406
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:37,120
well whatever is going on

2407
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:38,320
you know where

2408
01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:40,960
it's not harmful and they said well you

2409
01:27:44,229 --> 01:27:42,800
know what about brazil and you know

2410
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:44,239
there's been a lot of

2411
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:46,400
harmful things that have happened

2412
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:48,639
over the years but for the most part

2413
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:49,440
like

2414
01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:51,760
i've always thought whatever technology

2415
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:53,679
it is they have to get here they could

2416
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:57,679
do a lot more harm than they're doing

2417
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:58,880
so

2418
01:28:03,189 --> 01:28:01,199
that like i've said if if they wanted

2419
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:03,199
this gone we wouldn't be here lodging

2420
01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:05,280
that some of these beings have

2421
01:28:12,830 --> 01:28:08,480
uh but i think there is almost

2422
01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:12,840
a chain of evolution of consciousness

2423
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:14,560
that

2424
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:16,480
in a way the negative beings serve a

2425
01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:18,000
purpose that i look at things

2426
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:20,400
consciously now in life now what i've

2427
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:22,400
got to tell you i'm still young i'm 38

2428
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:23,679
years old a lot of people think i'm a

2429
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:26,000
lot older i'm 38.

2430
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,639
i'm still a child in a way in many ways

2431
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:30,239
i'm not putting myself down but what i

2432
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:32,000
can tell you is

2433
01:28:35,750 --> 01:28:33,920
having years to reflect on this is

2434
01:28:37,669 --> 01:28:35,760
almost like even in life when something

2435
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:37,679
negative happens to us

2436
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:39,360
we either have an opportunity to learn

2437
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:41,040
and grow from it and not repeat that

2438
01:28:45,430 --> 01:28:42,960
mistake if it was on our part or put

2439
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:45,440
ourselves into a situation or we can

2440
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:46,960
repeat it and we can

2441
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:48,639
it's like albert einstein used to say he

2442
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:50,080
can't afford to see the effect of you

2443
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:51,440
can't solve a problem with the same

2444
01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:53,120
level of consciousness that created it

2445
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:54,159
basically

2446
01:28:57,189 --> 01:28:55,600
but there is a point with the negative

2447
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,199
experiences of what i call negative

2448
01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:58,560
entities

2449
01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:00,480
demonic iconic

2450
01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:03,280
um what i call lower light predominantly

2451
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:04,400
because they're void of light and

2452
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:06,080
they're distorted forms of energy when i

2453
01:29:10,149 --> 01:29:07,920
when i've experienced these energies at

2454
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:10,159
the hierarchy or echelon of that this

2455
01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:13,040
this force in my opinion

2456
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:14,239
that

2457
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:15,760
it almost

2458
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:17,280
shows you how you don't want to be or

2459
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:18,800
how you don't want to experience things

2460
01:29:21,669 --> 01:29:20,320
so it shows you what you don't want and

2461
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:21,679
then you can focus on what you do and

2462
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:24,000
almost gives you an experience to raise

2463
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:26,480
your level so you you reach a higher

2464
01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:27,600
state to where these things can no

2465
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:29,120
longer affect you

2466
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:30,400
it's something that took many years to

2467
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:32,880
have that insight and guidance

2468
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:34,800
and uh mary rodwell said something to me

2469
01:29:39,590 --> 01:29:37,760
very interesting years ago which was

2470
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:39,600
she said pete if there's a parasitic

2471
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:40,800
weed

2472
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:43,920
and it sucks the life of off of a tree

2473
01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:46,080
is the weed really that bad if the only

2474
01:29:54,709 --> 01:29:52,950
so it's like a cup half empty cup half

2475
01:29:56,149 --> 01:29:54,719
full it depends on one's perspective in

2476
01:29:58,390 --> 01:29:56,159
the way that we want to perceive and

2477
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:58,400
look at things in life

2478
01:30:01,990 --> 01:29:59,520
so

2479
01:30:03,110 --> 01:30:02,000
this the connections that you feel like

2480
01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:03,120
you've had

2481
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:06,080
with whatever it is that they are are

2482
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:09,040
they looking to connect

2483
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:11,120
here are they purposely looking to

2484
01:30:17,910 --> 01:30:12,400
connect

2485
01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:17,920
well some of the ones that are

2486
01:30:22,709 --> 01:30:20,239
interacting with me is purposely to

2487
01:30:25,270 --> 01:30:22,719
connect with me

2488
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:25,280
sometimes it isn't the case

2489
01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:27,520
but when we look at agendas

2490
01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:30,239
and how this unfolds i used this on an

2491
01:30:34,709 --> 01:30:32,480
another analogy with another podcast

2492
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:34,719
recently with your genders

2493
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:36,320
what i'll say to you is just imagine

2494
01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:37,760
you're in a car and you're on the

2495
01:30:43,430 --> 01:30:39,840
outskirts and you can see the city of

2496
01:30:47,189 --> 01:30:45,430
what's the agenda and motive of every

2497
01:30:49,030 --> 01:30:47,199
person in the city it's going to be

2498
01:30:52,950 --> 01:30:49,040
different

2499
01:30:57,830 --> 01:30:55,750
and is it is it out there i mean are

2500
01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:57,840
these we're not

2501
01:31:01,750 --> 01:30:59,760
we're not sharing the planet with these

2502
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:01,760
things or are we or

2503
01:31:06,550 --> 01:31:04,560
do they pop in and out of i mean i'm

2504
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:06,560
just trying to picture the whole

2505
01:31:10,629 --> 01:31:08,719
the whole theory here all right to get

2506
01:31:12,950 --> 01:31:10,639
to get into that and it's not to plug my

2507
01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:12,960
books but i've got five books to delve

2508
01:31:17,510 --> 01:31:15,600
into this i've got seven out

2509
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:17,520
five books to delve into this that it is

2510
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:19,920
so convoluted that it would take many

2511
01:31:23,669 --> 01:31:22,080
two hours two hour conversations just to

2512
01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:23,679
cover the groundwork but what i can tell

2513
01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:25,440
you is there are some ancient

2514
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:28,400
civilizations that still reside here

2515
01:31:33,110 --> 01:31:30,800
inside certain areas where they've got

2516
01:31:35,030 --> 01:31:33,120
you'd call them bases but really

2517
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:35,040
they're just ancient remnant or we call

2518
01:31:36,870 --> 01:31:35,760
them

2519
01:31:38,709 --> 01:31:36,880
ancient

2520
01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:38,719
civilizations but they've got facilities

2521
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:41,679
within certain mountains and places

2522
01:31:44,870 --> 01:31:43,040
there are banks that are coming back

2523
01:31:47,110 --> 01:31:44,880
from the future

2524
01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:47,120
there are bangs from other star systems

2525
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,800
and other galaxies and even other

2526
01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:51,120
complete different universes

2527
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,000
and

2528
01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:54,719
there is predominantly what i call the

2529
01:31:59,990 --> 01:31:57,120
ninety percent the ninety percent of

2530
01:32:02,470 --> 01:32:00,000
realms that don't have planets and stars

2531
01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:02,480
when i've had when i have when i started

2532
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:04,239
having these experiences it was more of

2533
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:05,760
a physical thing

2534
01:32:08,550 --> 01:32:07,360
and it's very small percentage now

2535
01:32:10,550 --> 01:32:08,560
physical thing it used to be a lot

2536
01:32:12,950 --> 01:32:10,560
people had seen shiji one of the bangs i

2537
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:12,960
interact with in other banks

2538
01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:15,120
but then there was this period years ago

2539
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:16,239
where i started to go through these

2540
01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:18,880
experiences where they were

2541
01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:21,120
i was taken into high states of

2542
01:32:24,950 --> 01:32:22,800
consciousness to where

2543
01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:24,960
there's certain levels of other

2544
01:32:29,189 --> 01:32:27,600
realms that everybody's where

2545
01:32:31,030 --> 01:32:29,199
where in one frequency there's other

2546
01:32:32,709 --> 01:32:31,040
realms that could even be occupying the

2547
01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:32,719
same space as earth but it's a different

2548
01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:34,560
time or just a complete different

2549
01:32:38,229 --> 01:32:36,560
vibration realm

2550
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:38,239
then you hit what i call the other 90

2551
01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:40,480
percent which are pure thought-form

2552
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:41,920
realms

2553
01:32:45,990 --> 01:32:44,080
that there's no planets there's no stars

2554
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:46,000
almost like realms of imagination is the

2555
01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:47,600
only way i can describe it and then you

2556
01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:49,280
hit what i call a realm that's like a

2557
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:50,800
kaleidoscope

2558
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:52,800
and i call this the angelic or celestial

2559
01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:54,800
realms or the angelic kingdom

2560
01:32:58,390 --> 01:32:56,400
to where there is all these different

2561
01:33:00,070 --> 01:32:58,400
forms of intelligence that can come and

2562
01:33:02,470 --> 01:33:00,080
go and almost like looks like you're

2563
01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:02,480
living in a living kaleidoscope this

2564
01:33:06,709 --> 01:33:03,840
everything's going fractal when you're

2565
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:06,719
within it and you're a part of it

2566
01:33:10,149 --> 01:33:08,560
and then you hit this void and then

2567
01:33:12,229 --> 01:33:10,159
you're plugged into what i call source

2568
01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:12,239
god created these the the main i call it

2569
01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:13,120
it's like

2570
01:33:19,590 --> 01:33:15,760
i could even describe it as a samadhi

2571
01:33:21,189 --> 01:33:19,600
uh nevadic nirvana type state

2572
01:33:24,070 --> 01:33:21,199
but the way i describe it is that

2573
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:24,080
there's the body computer cannot even

2574
01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:25,920
integrate what's going on at that state

2575
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:27,280
of consciousness because you're in a

2576
01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:28,719
higher state of consciousness that part

2577
01:33:31,270 --> 01:33:30,080
of it can be filtering through to the

2578
01:33:32,790 --> 01:33:31,280
visions and that connected with the

2579
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:32,800
human brain

2580
01:33:36,550 --> 01:33:34,560
but what's really going on is that

2581
01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:36,560
you're hitting such a high realm from

2582
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:38,880
the spirit or soul part of you that

2583
01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:40,480
you're plugged into the mainframe of all

2584
01:33:43,750 --> 01:33:42,239
that is that that's the all-knowing part

2585
01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:43,760
you know everything that has ever will

2586
01:33:46,629 --> 01:33:45,360
happen you know everything but when you

2587
01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:46,639
come back to the body it's like all

2588
01:33:50,070 --> 01:33:48,000
these filters are put back on because

2589
01:33:52,229 --> 01:33:50,080
the human brain can't decode what you

2590
01:33:54,550 --> 01:33:52,239
experienced in that state and that's why

2591
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:54,560
i say the extraterrestrials the very

2592
01:33:58,470 --> 01:33:56,880
bottom part of it including us because

2593
01:34:00,470 --> 01:33:58,480
they're trying to reach these higher

2594
01:34:01,910 --> 01:34:00,480
states of consciousness as well if

2595
01:34:02,950 --> 01:34:01,920
they're in a body they're trying to

2596
01:34:04,629 --> 01:34:02,960
reach the highest states of

2597
01:34:07,110 --> 01:34:04,639
consciousness where you're more in a

2598
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:07,120
shapeless formless energetic

2599
01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:09,360
body is the only way i could describe it

2600
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:12,320
no arms no legs you're just a a gaseous

2601
01:34:15,189 --> 01:34:13,920
plasma-ish

2602
01:34:16,629 --> 01:34:15,199
i don't even know if that's what it is

2603
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:16,639
but the only way i can describe it it's

2604
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:19,600
almost like shapeless formless energy

2605
01:34:24,629 --> 01:34:22,080
and that's what i believe is what is us

2606
01:34:26,950 --> 01:34:24,639
our true form that overlaps the body

2607
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:26,960
when we come to incarnate even though

2608
01:34:29,590 --> 01:34:28,560
reincarnation's illusionary because the

2609
01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:29,600
way it's been shown to me is

2610
01:34:33,430 --> 01:34:32,400
everything's happening at once

2611
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:33,440
yeah

2612
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:35,520
this is a lot of this is way over my

2613
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:38,080
head to to understand and and i i think

2614
01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:40,080
it will be for some of my listeners but

2615
01:34:46,790 --> 01:34:44,080
i i find it fascinating you know i mean

2616
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:46,800
of course you know i mean we can't say

2617
01:34:52,149 --> 01:34:49,199
for sure any of these things

2618
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:52,159
um you know i mean we have no way to say

2619
01:34:55,430 --> 01:34:53,760
100

2620
01:34:58,149 --> 01:34:55,440
that you're right or someone else is

2621
01:34:59,910 --> 01:34:58,159
right or you're wrong or you know

2622
01:35:02,070 --> 01:34:59,920
and so i i think it's it's very

2623
01:35:03,990 --> 01:35:02,080
fascinating this this whole this is why

2624
01:35:06,149 --> 01:35:04,000
i don't do much interviews anymore i

2625
01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:06,159
really don't because there's people i

2626
01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:07,440
can talk to about this and it's not

2627
01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:10,159
about being right or wrong

2628
01:35:13,990 --> 01:35:11,760
it's probably more about can it be

2629
01:35:16,870 --> 01:35:14,000
fathomed can it be can it's going to be

2630
01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:16,880
digestible right that's the hard thing

2631
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:18,320
because like i say you're not going to

2632
01:35:21,669 --> 01:35:19,920
understand there's not no disrespect to

2633
01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,679
you or any of the listeners but a lot of

2634
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:23,199
people just aren't going to get it

2635
01:35:25,510 --> 01:35:24,560
unless they've had an experience to do

2636
01:35:27,669 --> 01:35:25,520
with it

2637
01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:27,679
that may go right well maybe it was like

2638
01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:29,280
that could sound similar to what i've

2639
01:35:33,910 --> 01:35:30,800
experienced and that's why i do what i

2640
01:35:35,990 --> 01:35:33,920
do now is i i just want to help people

2641
01:35:38,550 --> 01:35:36,000
help themselves

2642
01:35:40,870 --> 01:35:38,560
find the truth in them not from me not

2643
01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:40,880
from you not from anyone else is is

2644
01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:43,360
something where you just

2645
01:35:47,510 --> 01:35:45,119
tell your story tell your experience

2646
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:47,520
your insight your knowledge your wisdom

2647
01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:49,920
and everyone is a part of what's going

2648
01:35:53,990 --> 01:35:52,480
on but everyone's at a different

2649
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:54,000
not even just a different level it's

2650
01:35:56,709 --> 01:35:55,679
just everyone has

2651
01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:56,719
are different so everyone brings

2652
01:36:03,030 --> 01:35:59,679
something different to the plate

2653
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:03,040
so how was how would one open themselves

2654
01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:04,080
up

2655
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:04,880
to

2656
01:36:11,590 --> 01:36:09,280
things i mean

2657
01:36:13,109 --> 01:36:11,600
it sounds like you worked on this for

2658
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:13,119
years

2659
01:36:18,870 --> 01:36:17,040
and all i did was remote view or

2660
01:36:20,709 --> 01:36:18,880
meditate eight to twelve hours a day and

2661
01:36:23,270 --> 01:36:20,719
i still do that between an hour to four

2662
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:23,280
hours a day now my practices that's it

2663
01:36:27,669 --> 01:36:25,679
that's where it led me i had to own it i

2664
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,679
really had to own it because most of my

2665
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:29,280
experiences starting out were physical

2666
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:30,320
and then i started to get all this

2667
01:36:32,550 --> 01:36:31,440
non-physical stuff and i had to

2668
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:32,560
backtrack

2669
01:36:38,149 --> 01:36:35,520
to understand how this worked for me

2670
01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:38,159
so

2671
01:36:43,750 --> 01:36:42,719
basically how would one open themselves

2672
01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:43,760
up

2673
01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:44,480
to

2674
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:48,239
say

2675
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,480
one thing is don't open yourself up to

2676
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:52,159
anything and everything i've seen lives

2677
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:54,719
ruined from that where we could say

2678
01:36:59,030 --> 01:36:57,280
demonic iconic negative

2679
01:37:01,270 --> 01:36:59,040
things can start to happen or people

2680
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:01,280
experience no i'll tell you something i

2681
01:37:04,629 --> 01:37:02,800
know some of the people in the big ghost

2682
01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:04,639
hunting shows are on telly

2683
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:06,080
what a lot of people aren't aware of

2684
01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:07,520
what they're doing before and after the

2685
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:08,719
show is they're doing what we call a

2686
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,360
clearing like a prayer intention

2687
01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:13,199
and they do that so when they go in

2688
01:37:17,669 --> 01:37:15,040
they've got some form of protection when

2689
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:17,679
they leave nothing's following them home

2690
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:19,199
so unfortunately a lot of people in this

2691
01:37:21,990 --> 01:37:20,880
community they go out for sky watches

2692
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:22,000
and they're setting an intention and

2693
01:37:25,669 --> 01:37:23,360
they're opening up but they're opening

2694
01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:25,679
up to anything which in some cases

2695
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:27,920
starts to cause uh

2696
01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:29,440
detrimental

2697
01:37:33,830 --> 01:37:31,280
experiences to happen in their life and

2698
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:33,840
ramifications so i say one's the

2699
01:37:38,709 --> 01:37:36,320
intention of wanting to be open to the

2700
01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:38,719
experience two is making sure there's

2701
01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:40,159
what you'd be connected to on a soul

2702
01:37:43,910 --> 01:37:41,840
level or that is in line with the

2703
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:43,920
awakening healing of humanity the earth

2704
01:37:47,830 --> 01:37:45,679
that's there for peaceful

2705
01:37:49,910 --> 01:37:47,840
for a peaceful experience to help us

2706
01:37:51,350 --> 01:37:49,920
learn more about us and them

2707
01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:51,360
and then it's all about being the

2708
01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:53,119
observer from that point it's nothing

2709
01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:55,280
that is that hard

2710
01:37:59,669 --> 01:37:56,080
but

2711
01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:59,679
sometimes patience is called for and

2712
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:01,440
i know that some people expect you just

2713
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:02,880
go out and it might happen straight away

2714
01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:04,239
and it doesn't a few times so they just

2715
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:05,679
throw it out the baby with the bath

2716
01:38:08,870 --> 01:38:07,199
water and go that's it but sometimes it

2717
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:08,880
might be to get into a meditative state

2718
01:38:12,790 --> 01:38:10,480
to relax your mind so you can be open to

2719
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:12,800
perceiving these things that it seems to

2720
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:13,760
be

2721
01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:17,520
your feelings and your emotions and

2722
01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:19,280
almost be the observer than a

2723
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:20,960
reactionary mode that you can start to

2724
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:22,719
experience things through just purely

2725
01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:24,239
being the observer

2726
01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:25,440
because i think what blocks a lot of

2727
01:38:28,709 --> 01:38:27,040
people out when they try to go into

2728
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:28,719
these consciousness type of experiments

2729
01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:30,719
to see the crafts and what have you is

2730
01:38:34,070 --> 01:38:32,400
they're trying to control what they're

2731
01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:34,080
going to see when it's going to happen

2732
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:35,520
how it's going to happen

2733
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:36,560
where

2734
01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:37,920
it's not like

2735
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:40,400
they're a dog on anyone's leash

2736
01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:42,159
but if you've reasoned to the occasion

2737
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:44,320
and you're open to these types of

2738
01:38:48,550 --> 01:38:46,320
experiences with positive beings you

2739
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:48,560
might be surprised what might come even

2740
01:38:53,189 --> 01:38:50,000
if you've got to sit there for some time

2741
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:53,199
and wait for something to happen

2742
01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:55,040
there's been some crazy experiments i've

2743
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:57,520
done where i had a scientist for the

2744
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:58,800
australian government i won't go into

2745
01:39:02,629 --> 01:39:00,000
too much more detail because i don't

2746
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:02,639
want to pinpoint it onto the person

2747
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:03,520
and

2748
01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:07,840
said all we're going to do is we're just

2749
01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:09,520
going to stare at that tree

2750
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:12,800
for five minutes so all we're gonna do

2751
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:15,360
well within about two minutes

2752
01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:17,440
smoke came in

2753
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,239
and an aboriginal

2754
01:39:27,270 --> 01:39:22,800
human australian aboriginal manifested

2755
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:27,280
wearing a red cloth around it and it had

2756
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:31,590
four white dots

2757
01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:33,760
paint on the on the chest and the

2758
01:39:39,350 --> 01:39:37,199
stomach and two squiggly lines

2759
01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:39,360
down the middle and then a day material

2760
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:41,199
it was there probably for like

2761
01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:42,400
a few seconds and then a day

2762
01:39:46,149 --> 01:39:44,639
materialized again

2763
01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:46,159
and he goes did you see that and i said

2764
01:39:49,990 --> 01:39:48,719
yeah and he goes what did you see and i

2765
01:39:52,790 --> 01:39:50,000
told him what i saw which i just

2766
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,800
described and he's like what the hell

2767
01:39:56,870 --> 01:39:55,119
how does that work

2768
01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:56,880
and it was just the intention to do

2769
01:40:00,550 --> 01:39:58,800
we're in the middle of absolutely

2770
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:00,560
nowhere

2771
01:40:05,109 --> 01:40:03,280
but we were open to experience it and

2772
01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:05,119
like i said don't control it all we're

2773
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:06,560
going to do is stare at this tree it

2774
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:07,600
could have been anything it could have

2775
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:08,960
been a craft come it could have been an

2776
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:10,320
orb it could have been

2777
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:12,719
uh anything happen

2778
01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:14,159
um

2779
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:15,360
and then another time we did an

2780
01:40:20,229 --> 01:40:17,679
intention experiment we actually had

2781
01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:20,239
i think seven of us there

2782
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:24,880
and what was crazy was that we saw

2783
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:28,719
a square it was like a rectangular craft

2784
01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:31,360
that was sharp on the edges

2785
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:33,360
probably about nine foot long about a

2786
01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:36,719
foot high and it came out of gum trees

2787
01:40:40,790 --> 01:40:38,239
turned like that and it went straight

2788
01:40:42,390 --> 01:40:40,800
into the earth and everyone saw it and

2789
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:42,400
what was weird is at that time were

2790
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,320
walking to leave that area

2791
01:40:48,070 --> 01:40:46,320
and the person who had this big

2792
01:40:49,750 --> 01:40:48,080
spotlight torch

2793
01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:49,760
we all captured it because we saw it

2794
01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:52,080
happen while the short torch was shining

2795
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:53,440
in that if we didn't have the torch out

2796
01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:54,480
we would have seen it because we were in

2797
01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:56,880
darkness but that was another intention

2798
01:41:00,709 --> 01:40:58,719
experiment where we've set the intention

2799
01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:00,719
for something to happen we saw a lot but

2800
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:02,400
the main thing we saw was that and that

2801
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:05,040
was when we were about to leave

2802
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:07,119
so it's the intention is the key behind

2803
01:41:10,870 --> 01:41:08,560
it

2804
01:41:12,550 --> 01:41:10,880
well what about you mentioned remote

2805
01:41:16,830 --> 01:41:12,560
viewing quite a bit

2806
01:41:25,270 --> 01:41:20,629
experience well you see remote viewing

2807
01:41:27,189 --> 01:41:25,280
the way i i talk about it again is that

2808
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:27,199
you've got to keep you got to kick your

2809
01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:29,199
human mind to the side

2810
01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:31,280
so anything that you doubt anything that

2811
01:41:35,109 --> 01:41:32,800
you second guess sometimes you can put

2812
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:35,119
in an aol section which is analytical

2813
01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:36,080
mind

2814
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:37,760
an abbreviation we could say what that

2815
01:41:40,709 --> 01:41:39,360
would mean just anything analytical

2816
01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:40,719
coming in you might be second guessing

2817
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:42,719
it the human part sometimes that

2818
01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:44,000
information be right but what you're

2819
01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:46,239
really doing is

2820
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:48,000
now i do free flow remote viewing which

2821
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:49,440
is sort of my own technique that i came

2822
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:51,280
up with but very much similar to a lot

2823
01:41:54,709 --> 01:41:52,800
of people that operate the way i do

2824
01:41:56,070 --> 01:41:54,719
where they're not using the paper

2825
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:56,080
because usually you'll be given two

2826
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,239
target or eight eight numbers which are

2827
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:00,480
two sets of four digit numbers

2828
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:03,040
you do an idiogram which is a squiggle

2829
01:42:06,629 --> 01:42:04,960
which is like the numbers represent the

2830
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:06,639
target which in this case let's say it

2831
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:09,440
was a soviet base that's on a photograph

2832
01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:11,119
with a line to it with the two sets of

2833
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:12,639
four digit numbers

2834
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:14,400
that's putting an envelope and it's

2835
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:16,480
handed to somebody else

2836
01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:18,239
let's say the remote viewer all the

2837
01:42:22,229 --> 01:42:20,320
remote viewers got is those two sets to

2838
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:22,239
four digit numbers which basically the

2839
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:25,280
way i i reckon it works is that because

2840
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:27,119
the person has allocated those numbers

2841
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:29,920
to the photograph now in the realm of

2842
01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:31,360
consciousness

2843
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:32,480
those numbers that would have been

2844
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:34,000
written down are allocated to that so

2845
01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:35,440
when it's given to this person if they

2846
01:42:39,430 --> 01:42:37,600
psychically work through remote viewing

2847
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:39,440
they're linked to

2848
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:41,280
the object in the photo i hope i'm

2849
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:42,719
explaining this properly like just

2850
01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:44,320
that's digestible

2851
01:42:48,070 --> 01:42:46,639
but bottom story is after they do this

2852
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:48,080
they write down the numbers and they do

2853
01:42:51,750 --> 01:42:50,560
a squiggle they start going through

2854
01:42:52,870 --> 01:42:51,760
textures

2855
01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:52,880
colors

2856
01:42:56,229 --> 01:42:54,960
dimensions basically you're going

2857
01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:56,239
through the five sense reality and

2858
01:42:59,910 --> 01:42:58,080
beyond of what you're perceiving now you

2859
01:43:01,590 --> 01:42:59,920
might not see anything

2860
01:43:04,229 --> 01:43:01,600
but you might intuitively draw out a

2861
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:04,239
line but there was times where i started

2862
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:06,560
out one day i drew what looked like a

2863
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:07,600
kettle

2864
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:09,600
and it was a light and i've drawn a line

2865
01:43:13,590 --> 01:43:12,000
to it and gone that's a red light

2866
01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:13,600
and my father opened up the target

2867
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:14,960
because i was getting him to do targets

2868
01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:16,960
for me for a while and it was exactly

2869
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:18,320
what i drew out it was a kettle with a

2870
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:19,600
red light

2871
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:20,320
so

2872
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:22,719
in a way remote viewing is working with

2873
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:25,280
one's consciousness on how we perceive

2874
01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:26,320
things

2875
01:43:29,669 --> 01:43:28,159
it's a form of communication to find out

2876
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:29,679
information but when you're using it to

2877
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:30,960
actually really have real-time

2878
01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:33,119
communication you're not using the paper

2879
01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:35,760
or anything though some can do that

2880
01:43:40,149 --> 01:43:38,400
you're using not just your five senses

2881
01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:40,159
but your mind's eye your thoughts and

2882
01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:43,119
your feelings as extra senses

2883
01:43:47,030 --> 01:43:45,360
to go multi-dimensional to communicate

2884
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:47,040
multi-dimensionally

2885
01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:48,960
so this is where i say the problem with

2886
01:43:52,229 --> 01:43:50,560
a lot of this is that

2887
01:43:54,470 --> 01:43:52,239
psychics and people that are developed

2888
01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:54,480
in these areas

2889
01:43:58,709 --> 01:43:56,960
they get information but really what's

2890
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:58,719
happening is if they're not meeting them

2891
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,480
halfway it's like the extraterrestrial

2892
01:44:04,390 --> 01:44:02,320
that or the spirit whatever is throwing

2893
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:04,400
a jigsaw puzzle of information at them

2894
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:05,840
that's coming at them multidimensionally

2895
01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:07,360
it's just bang

2896
01:44:10,149 --> 01:44:08,800
where if you're interfacing with them

2897
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:10,159
and you can make them halfway and go

2898
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:11,040
through a

2899
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:12,960
question type of thing

2900
01:44:16,070 --> 01:44:14,719
what's happening is you're projecting

2901
01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:16,080
the thought what thoughts feelings

2902
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:17,600
visions come back as an answer project

2903
01:44:20,550 --> 01:44:18,880
another thought what thoughts feelings

2904
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:20,560
visions come back as an answer but

2905
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:22,400
you're almost using a remote viewing

2906
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:24,480
technique to do it in real time

2907
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:27,199
um you could say almost like a

2908
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:28,960
conversation but partly front loaded

2909
01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:30,000
because you're actually knowing or

2910
01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:31,280
you're seeing what you're interfacing

2911
01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:33,040
with in the form of that so

2912
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:35,040
remote viewing is something that

2913
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:37,199
is a very practical tool but at the same

2914
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:38,880
time

2915
01:44:42,709 --> 01:44:40,639
the way that i'm communicating isn't

2916
01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:42,719
remote viewing remote viewing helped me

2917
01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:44,400
to get where i am to be able to use my

2918
01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:46,719
abilities in that way or to harness them

2919
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:48,960
that i think we all have

2920
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:51,280
because if i didn't do that meditation

2921
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:53,520
for that number of years very intensely

2922
01:44:56,390 --> 01:44:54,800
i don't think i'd be where i am now

2923
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:56,400
understanding what i know now which is

2924
01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:58,560
where extraterrestrial aspect and ufo

2925
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:00,480
phenomenous child's play compared to

2926
01:45:05,669 --> 01:45:03,280
what it leads to it leads to a greater

2927
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:05,679
understanding and sort of uh experience

2928
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:08,560
of what we all are not just

2929
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:10,639
are a part of but what our true nature

2930
01:45:13,430 --> 01:45:11,440
is

2931
01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:13,440
beside beyond the physical form of the

2932
01:45:17,990 --> 01:45:15,280
human experience

2933
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:18,000
so but you've got to be really careful

2934
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:19,760
there's remote viewers that are very

2935
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:21,679
strongly remote viewers in the terms of

2936
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:24,400
if you have somebody like um dr greer

2937
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:25,840
for example he talks about remote

2938
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:27,040
viewing

2939
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:28,960
but he's doing it in a meditative type

2940
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:31,199
state with groups

2941
01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:33,040
you have if you had somebody that will

2942
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:34,800
part of the military remote viewing hear

2943
01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:37,199
that they go that's not remote viewing

2944
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:38,960
they've staunchly that's not remote

2945
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:40,400
viewing it's got to be done this way

2946
01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:41,679
that we're doing with project stargate

2947
01:45:45,830 --> 01:45:44,080
and the way that ed daims and um joseph

2948
01:45:47,109 --> 01:45:45,840
mcmonugal and all those guys it's got to

2949
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,119
be done that way that's what remote

2950
01:45:49,590 --> 01:45:48,560
viewing is it can't be done this other

2951
01:45:51,109 --> 01:45:49,600
way

2952
01:45:53,430 --> 01:45:51,119
but i think what's happening is people

2953
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:53,440
have been able to adapt to it to my what

2954
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:55,040
i've got with my own technique which i

2955
01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:57,280
call flea free flowing remote viewing

2956
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:58,320
where you're basically doing the

2957
01:46:01,990 --> 01:45:59,840
technique but you're using it to

2958
01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:02,000
interface not just with the bangs but to

2959
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:04,639
even initiate it as well

2960
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:07,840
interesting i remember hearing

2961
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:11,600
lou aleszando saying that someone

2962
01:46:16,070 --> 01:46:14,320
that was involved in

2963
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:16,080
the ttsa

2964
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,520
uh above his pay grade

2965
01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:21,520
claimed that he thought that things were

2966
01:46:24,830 --> 01:46:22,960
demonic

2967
01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:24,840
i just want to hear your reaction to

2968
01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:28,960
that kind what was demonic exactly ufos

2969
01:46:32,790 --> 01:46:30,800
were demonic

2970
01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:32,800
that was his that's what he told lou

2971
01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:34,080
alzondo

2972
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:35,920
his thoughts

2973
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:37,840
i can tell you personally demons don't

2974
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:40,480
need a ufo most of these intelligences

2975
01:46:44,629 --> 01:46:42,400
don't even need a craft

2976
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:44,639
no way at all they will they will just

2977
01:46:48,790 --> 01:46:47,280
appear they they can just appear that's

2978
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:48,800
where they're dealing at so

2979
01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:49,760
that

2980
01:46:54,070 --> 01:46:52,400
might have negative intentions and

2981
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:54,080
that's the way that he's perceived it

2982
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:56,400
but angels and demons do exist my friend

2983
01:46:59,669 --> 01:46:58,400
and they do not need a craft

2984
01:47:02,310 --> 01:46:59,679
not at all

2985
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:02,320
yeah so i i guess the question i have to

2986
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:03,360
ask you

2987
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:05,199
whatever these

2988
01:47:09,350 --> 01:47:06,960
things are

2989
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:09,360
um are and they're you're saying that

2990
01:47:13,430 --> 01:47:11,440
some of them are not even you know a

2991
01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:13,440
physical form but

2992
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:14,960
what do they want

2993
01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:20,629
well that's what i was saying before

2994
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:22,880
it's like driving into la and seeing all

2995
01:47:26,950 --> 01:47:24,000
these different people and everyone's

2996
01:47:29,350 --> 01:47:26,960
got a different agenda but in my case

2997
01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:29,360
it's been a revelation of

2998
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:31,600
who i am

2999
01:47:35,270 --> 01:47:33,440
what i'm here to experience in some way

3000
01:47:37,430 --> 01:47:35,280
that i've i find through the experiences

3001
01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:37,440
but it's really me finding that out and

3002
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:39,600
also partly of what i'm a part of here

3003
01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:41,679
on earth with yourself and every single

3004
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:43,440
being on this planet

3005
01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:44,960
that there is

3006
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,199
a shift in consciousness a leap in

3007
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:49,679
evolution going on and it's time to sort

3008
01:47:53,350 --> 01:47:51,280
of wake up to the full potential of what

3009
01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:53,360
we are these bangs aren't to be looked

3010
01:47:57,030 --> 01:47:55,440
up to this is the problem

3011
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:57,040
you you either have one aspect where

3012
01:47:59,669 --> 01:47:58,320
people get into this and they get right

3013
01:48:00,950 --> 01:47:59,679
into the spiritual aspect and they think

3014
01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:00,960
that these these bangs are going to

3015
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:02,320
solve all their problems or you go into

3016
01:48:06,149 --> 01:48:04,400
the other side and then

3017
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:06,159
people don't want to acknowledge the the

3018
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:07,440
consciousness aspect and you've got

3019
01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:08,480
another flip side to that where

3020
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:09,920
everything's demonic

3021
01:48:13,270 --> 01:48:12,400
everything's negative

3022
01:48:14,550 --> 01:48:13,280
but

3023
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:14,560
what i can tell you from my own

3024
01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:16,480
experience is there is a dark force out

3025
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:18,800
there but there is also an amazing

3026
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,800
loving force out there that loves us

3027
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:22,560
more than anyone can possibly imagine

3028
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:24,080
unless they've had these type of

3029
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:25,440
experiences

3030
01:48:28,229 --> 01:48:26,239
and

3031
01:48:30,149 --> 01:48:28,239
what i say to people

3032
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:30,159
is how you can gauge what's what is the

3033
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:31,600
fruit of the information is the

3034
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:33,119
information about you becoming a better

3035
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:35,119
person being of service working on some

3036
01:48:37,750 --> 01:48:36,480
of the stuff that you may need to work

3037
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:37,760
on yourself

3038
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:39,679
is it the opposite of that or is it

3039
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:41,280
nonsensical which would be the trickster

3040
01:48:45,830 --> 01:48:43,040
energy in the middle or as i said the

3041
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:45,840
non the the opposite stuff would be the

3042
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:47,280
dark stuff

3043
01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:49,119
and so that's where i look at the

3044
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:50,960
information how's this helping me become

3045
01:48:54,629 --> 01:48:52,560
a better person how does it help me be

3046
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:54,639
productive work on myself play my part

3047
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:56,800
in humanity but at the same time they're

3048
01:49:00,149 --> 01:48:58,080
not going to solve our problems the

3049
01:49:01,590 --> 01:49:00,159
human race has to do this themselves to

3050
01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:01,600
realize what they're actually truly

3051
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:02,880
capable of

3052
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:04,960
and that's what that's why nothing's get

3053
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:06,480
got fixed by the extraterrestrials

3054
01:49:10,870 --> 01:49:08,480
because it's not their place to do that

3055
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:10,880
is for us to find that within us to rise

3056
01:49:16,870 --> 01:49:13,440
to the occasion to do it ourselves

3057
01:49:19,589 --> 01:49:16,880
right right i remember um listening to

3058
01:49:21,350 --> 01:49:19,599
uh now i've i've we had a case here in

3059
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:21,360
maine uh we've got about four minutes

3060
01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:23,440
left to the show we had a case here in

3061
01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:25,760
maine where i live

3062
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:28,239
and it's called the allagash incident

3063
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:30,639
and there were four you've heard of it

3064
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:31,360
yeah

3065
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:37,040
uh jack uh i've interviewed jim

3066
01:49:42,629 --> 01:49:40,320
uh weiner and jack his twin brother

3067
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:42,639
said that

3068
01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:44,960
you know the overall experience in all

3069
01:49:50,149 --> 01:49:47,520
these years have gone by and

3070
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:50,159
and he's had things happen since then

3071
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:52,560
and he said something pretty remarkable

3072
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:54,880
he said it's about love

3073
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:56,960
and you just mentioned that he said it's

3074
01:50:00,149 --> 01:49:59,119
about an incredible love

3075
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:00,159
uh

3076
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:03,520
that would give hope

3077
01:50:07,750 --> 01:50:07,040
to it it does it does like it's i think

3078
01:50:09,430 --> 01:50:07,760
it's

3079
01:50:11,669 --> 01:50:09,440
i think part of the human experience

3080
01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:11,679
from from my point of view is about not

3081
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:14,239
just about love but learning

3082
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:15,280
learning

3083
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:17,199
from the experience in terms of why i

3084
01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:19,119
believe we're all experiencing this and

3085
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:20,639
we have many experiences that we

3086
01:50:24,550 --> 01:50:22,159
experience in many other planets and

3087
01:50:26,229 --> 01:50:24,560
star systems galaxies and rules

3088
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:26,239
is because we're all one consciousness

3089
01:50:29,510 --> 01:50:27,840
interacting with itself but we leave

3090
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:29,520
that higher state to go and experience

3091
01:50:32,550 --> 01:50:30,880
and gain knowledge for the overall

3092
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:32,560
collective and it has to be a different

3093
01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:34,400
experience for everyone

3094
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:35,360
and

3095
01:50:38,629 --> 01:50:36,960
i think with the human experiences

3096
01:50:40,950 --> 01:50:38,639
learning things like love compassion

3097
01:50:43,109 --> 01:50:40,960
forgiveness non-judgment

3098
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:43,119
in such a dense form that sort of

3099
01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:45,040
amplifies our soul growth because it's

3100
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:46,320
almost like we're putting ourselves

3101
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:48,480
through a testable test being here doing

3102
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:49,520
this

3103
01:50:52,709 --> 01:50:51,280
i know that again i can't prove that to

3104
01:50:54,550 --> 01:50:52,719
anyone all i can tell you is that over

3105
01:50:57,589 --> 01:50:54,560
the years my experiences

3106
01:50:59,430 --> 01:50:57,599
that's the conclusion i've come to from

3107
01:51:01,430 --> 01:50:59,440
the messages the experiences the

3108
01:51:02,950 --> 01:51:01,440
knowledge and wisdom that i've sort of

3109
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:02,960
gleaned through

3110
01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:05,360
having a life like this

3111
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:07,360
interesting well we're just about out of

3112
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,719
time can you

3113
01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:10,800
tell us when we'll be able to see this

3114
01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:11,840
movie

3115
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:14,480
it's out right now it's on depending on

3116
01:51:19,669 --> 01:51:17,199
your country so i know that in the uk i

3117
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:19,679
think canada and america is available on

3118
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:20,880
amazon

3119
01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:22,560
um in other countries i might have to

3120
01:51:27,350 --> 01:51:24,880
just get it on vimeo at this time it's

3121
01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:27,360
also available on itunes

3122
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:29,199
google play

3123
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:30,400
um

3124
01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:31,760
yeah vimeo

3125
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:34,560
voodoo a handful of other ones as well

3126
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:35,440
so

3127
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:36,960
it's pretty much yeah people can look

3128
01:51:41,109 --> 01:51:38,560
around and find it it's been out for

3129
01:51:42,870 --> 01:51:41,119
probably uh just over a month now oh i

3130
01:51:44,709 --> 01:51:42,880
didn't even know i would i would have

3131
01:51:46,709 --> 01:51:44,719
watched it ahead of the show if i known

3132
01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:46,719
i could have accessed it so you're

3133
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:48,400
saying in the united states we can watch

3134
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:51,920
it on amazon is that right yes

3135
01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:53,840
yeah you see this something that people

3136
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:56,239
love or hate it's got it's got more five

3137
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:58,239
stars than it has one stars i'll say

3138
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:00,320
that but people either love it people

3139
01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:03,760
either hate it at why it's so good

3140
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:06,560
all right okay peter thank you so much

3141
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:08,480
i really appreciate it all right you

3142
01:52:11,830 --> 01:52:10,320
take care

3143
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:11,840
all right everyone so that's it for the

3144
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:13,520
show tonight thank you so much for

3145
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:16,320
watching the links will be up on i'm

3146
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:18,560
going to put those video links up in the

3147
01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:20,560
show notes so check them out there next

3148
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:22,480
week we have kevin hale i think he's a

3149
01:52:26,550 --> 01:52:24,800
bit of a skeptic i don't really remember

3150
01:52:29,350 --> 01:52:26,560
for sure but he's going to be on the

3151
01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:29,360
show next week so tune in on next

3152
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:32,800
tuesday at six to eight pm eastern time

3153
01:52:36,630 --> 01:52:34,320
and thanks so much everyone and remember

3154
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:36,640
to keep your eyes to the sky